Ava Murbarger

Thanks Archer! I recognize you too! XD

Okay, so now I’m just gonna sit here politely until someone replies and then I’m going to jump in, as I’m feeling happily overwhelmed right now! 🙂

At the first shifting of the room, Quin swayed and caught himself.

“she’s right” boomed the voice. “This is no time to be dramatic.” the wall hurdled closer. “In fact, there is no need.”

A rumbling started from some unfathomable depth that sounded like giant laughter. It grew louder and louder as it came closer to the surface, until whole castle…[Read more]

I agree with all of this.

Ooh, this one’s on my TBR.

I was going to respond to other pieces of your response, too, but then I realized I just agree with the whole thing. XD All things should be brought under submission to Christ, and there are ways to subvert pagan ideas to support Christian themes. We obviously can’t just take them as they…[Read more]

*slams into door, knocks over some chairs, skids into living room only to find it empty*

WHERE IS EVERYONE???????

Hey everyone, it’s Denali Christianson from the Wingfeather Saga forum epochs ago… DO Y’ALL STILL HAVE ROOM FOR MY CHARACTER FERN????

Are y’all even alive?

Is this the end?

*crouches in corner and cries*

AAAAAHHHH IS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME THIS GROUP IS STILL ACTIVEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! It’s Denali from Wingfeather Forum more than a year ago now… I’ve missed everyone and I really really really need to get back with y’all!!!

IS THIS GROUP STILL ACTIVE??????????

I still have Akaya’s character sheet somewhere… (the wolf who probably mysteriously…[Read more]

Hey everyone! I just joined this forum in search of some old friends I left on the Wingfeather Saga forum awhile ago…

But then I realized how cool this forum is, and this is definitely a debate that I’m very passionate about!

I have no time in my life; could someone give me very short rundown of where we are in the debate rn? I’d rather not…[Read more]

@ashley-tegart

Thanks for the reply Ashley. 🙂

I believe I have answered on these points in my last few comments in reply to Taylor and Archer, so read over my replies to them if you would like to see my rebuttals to your points on the definition of magic, Sanderon’s works, portraying magic and the supernatural in fantasy worlds, etc…I really…[Read more]

Thanks for the tag, @noah-cochran

I’ve been watching this thread from afar while busy with midterms and papers, so hopefully my contributions are coherent (I also hope to catch up on the other threads soon). 😛 I feel like this debate has gone beyond how we define magic and is delving more into different presuppositions about what makes fiction C…[Read more]

@r-m-archer

To be candid, I’m surprised that you even consider Riordan okay. The bible constantly talks against other gods, and messing with demonic or and natural realms, and Riordan’s plots are literally based around greek gods and their supernatural powers. Do you think our God would like us reading books where those false gods are actually…[Read more]

I still don’t think any of those things are inherently wrong to use. The real world has false gods and false religions. It’s far more one-note and lazy, in my opinion, to create a world in which there is only one religion which is obviously the true religion based on Christianity than to create a world with dynamic, conflicting beliefs in whi…

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I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on that. It can be a slippery slope, and we should write with the awareness of that and step back from the topic if we do start to slip, but I don’t think it’s inherently problematic to show temporary benefits that pale in comparison to the cost.

I think an argument could be made for Riordan either way.…[Read more]

@r-m-archer

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case so long as rule #1 is followed and the benefits are temporary and far outweighed by the consequences.

It’s a real dangerous thing to mess with and it can portray you (the author) as someone who is okay with magic to readers who are confused. It’s a very slippery slope.

Riordan’s and Sanders…

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Sahar

I was still petting Azar during Acyn and Lorcan’s conversation. Acyn was being his usual, mildly irritating, self.

Quin seemed embarrassed, and I made a point of smiling at him again. I liked him already.

“No animosity? I was starting to enjoy the assassin and the princess’ squabbling. I suppose I’ll have to find another way to amuse…[Read more]

@noah-cochran

My friend, at some point you need to actually read a text before you can reasonably comment on it. I want to talk about several things that you’re not understanding based on wiki readings, but it would do no good because you haven’t read the text yourself. You owe it to yourself not to let other people make your opinions for you!

A…[Read more]

@this-is-not-an-alien,

Oh noo your poor dad! Is he better now?

Yep, he’s doing fine! I’m really the only one with lingering COVID symptoms. *glares at COVID symptoms*

IKR!!! THE WORST PART ABOUT ORDERING ON AMAZON IS YOUR SIBLINGS CAN CHECK YOUR SEARCH HISTORY!!!!!!!!!! Around Christmas my mom will yell to anyone who touches an Amazon package…

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Correct.

Agreed.

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case so long as rule #1 is followed and the benefits are temporary and far outweighed by the consequences. Magic in the real world holds appeal to people because it’s perceived to have a benefit, therefore to omit any such benefit in a fictional portrayal seems dishonest to me. But that…[Read more]

@noah-cochran

I’ll write out a fuller reply eventually (I’m pretty busy) but I think so far I’m agreeing with R.M. and Taylor.

@r-m-archer

So if I understand your point correctly, you’re saying that you agree that magic and supernatural things are sin, but it is fine to right if portrayed carefully as thing a person does in the book that is wrong, like any other sin such as murder, theft, lust, lying, etc…Is that correct?

If that is what you’re saying, that is a valid…[Read more]

Od course! Yeah…that wasn’t strictly characteristic for Quin, but I needed some way for him to start interacting, otherwise there’s this shy new kid who doesn’t say Jack Squat for 5 pages…wonderful. I really hope Quin and Locran end up being good friends. (Ig that’s up to me XD)

Quin

“Just trying to make conversation, lad. Anything…[Read more]