WisdomOfProse

@noah-cochran

Interesting. Are the third person limited views quite sparse? Like Skyward’s interludes?

Exactly. I have… three chapters total, I think. For one, Liorah is absent but there’s important information, for the other she’s there but I needed it told through another character’s perspective.

Okay, that’s what I figured you were going for…

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The first book only has one first person POV, (Liorah’s) but it has a few other chapters in third person limited for other characters.

Interesting. Are the third person limited views quite sparse? Like Skyward’s interludes?

That’s my first point. Backstory that isn’t a ghost exists too and it’s important to lend emotional value to the ghost.

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@noah-cochran

I was more saying that they’re overused, and mostly just used to put emphasis on how the main character’s sound different. In other words, the author couldn’t think of any more unique way to describe an accent, so they just said “thick” or “rough” or something like that.

Admittedly, describing accents is hard XD I think the only…[Read more]

@rose-colored-fancy

I don’t think describing an accent (or especially a voice, since I was more describing his voice) as rough is an inherently bad thing, but I will look at it

So, I agree with everything you said, but I wasn’t exactly saying that describing accents in those ways were necessary “bad” or “offensive” things to do, I was more s…[Read more]

@noah-cochran

All those descriptions are polarizing and almost trite because when I read fantasy books it seems that the kind’ve out-of-the-way cultures or non-main character cultures have those less than pleasant accents

See, that’s exactly what I was talking about.

Language is inherently neutral, or at least, should be. Having an accent is jus…[Read more]

@rose-colored-fancy

The words were in the common language, and thankfully, I understood them, despite the strong, clipped accent.

That’s exactly what I was talking about, so great example. 🙂 That’s how I like to describe accents. I guess what I’m needing now is more words to describe accents rather than the normal: rough, thick, gravely, twangy,…[Read more]

@noah-cochran

 I guess what I’m trying to say is that I use accents to help develop character voice, and thus I really only want some of the characters to be defined by a cultural accent.

I get what you’re trying to say, but I don’t know how much it would actually help you with character voice because your reader isn’t really hearing it. The on…[Read more]

@rose-colored-fancy

That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t give them an accent, since they probably do have one, but if they get a POV, they can mention how all the others have accents to them. And people from different regions of the same place can always have regional accents.

I usually just describe accents like “They had a (region) accent.…

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@noah-cochran

I was in a hurry and I forgot to mention that “Gilded blood” will be ready to beta-read in late march/early april. The manuscript is 91k and the deadline is preferably end of april, though there’s some slack there.

It’s the second draft, I mainly need story and scene level critique. (Basically what I’ve been doing for TTD)

Will…[Read more]

Trope talk: Accents

@noah-cochran

I can’t have a conversation in that chaos. xD

*Glances around secretively* Oh, we’re whispering? XD Good idea though, but I think you got the wrong forum XD

However, one thing you might notice in my historical fiction is that I don’t mess with religion much. I’ll do it more in this series, but I don’t particularly want to turn th…

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@sparrowhawke –

I loved that poem very much! It does need some polishing up, as all our work does, but it also resounded with me deeply. I have a fear of people not liking me, so I oftentimes don’t say what I want to say because I’m worried something will go wrong and I’ll spoil a friendship. I’m always telling myself ‘one day I’ll be bold, one…[Read more]

@sir-leeds

“Boo Radley”–that was really good! I loved the imagery! I agree with Anne on a favorite line–that whole stanza was my favorite actually.

@emily-waldorf

I loved the idea of “watching the rain”. It seems to evoke an idea of patience and perseverance through a trial rather than “oh please help i don’t like this it hurts please save me…[Read more]

Hi @emily-waldorf , I’m thankful we can all continue this conversation, even amidst the strong opinions. I think your idea about the heart and soul of poetry would line up well with John Keats: “Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.” (from the last lines of “Ode on a Grecian Urn”).

Now I don’t n…[Read more]