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I’m heading out now. I might back later to tag me if anyone gets on later
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@jenwriter, @catwing, @seekjustice, anyone around? (FYI, I’m alia from KP, if that clears up any confusion)
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@seekjustice, Ooh, I like that new name.
I think I saw you talking about it, but I wasn’t ever actually on when the discussion was happening. it’ll be nice to have a fairy tale from Australia. There are so many Asian and European ones that its easy to forget other cultures.
Research, the stumbling block of most writers =D (Yes, Moana was amazing, design, culture, music, all of it)
It seems to be cut down the middle since it is the toddler’s life on the line. (I’m tempted to point out Waif, but I guess since it was a retelling it can pass 😉 )
Well, I actually have to go now too. Hopefully we can talk again soon
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@myclipboardismyviolin, interesting thing is, the thought of killing her off didn’t even appear until right before New York passed the after birth abortion law. just a few days before that I thought that it might add an interesting element to my book, and then that happened. The thing about fictional books is that they almost always reflect what is going on in the world, its really interesting. So it would be a somewhat subtle way of discussing abortion.
What I would do is have the girl die and have the dad’s grief propel him on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge against the child-sacrifice thing, but it’s your story and it’s up to you. Regardless though, you’ve got me on the edge of my seat wanting to read this one, so go for it!
are you looking inside my head???
well, disappointing that you don’t play, but cool metaphor.
It really has to do with how powerful Jycin is versus how much power the villains have, that would determine her death or not. I think you should first decide how much power each side needs based on the larger story that you have and go from there. Granted, this could be a chicken-and-the-egg problem. Obviously if the girl dies, that weakens Jycin’s side considerably since he will be suffering from grief, and if the little girl grows up she might help Jycin later. On the other hand, if the villains don’t get what they want, they will get stronger and angrier and more and more bent on revenge, and Jycin will have to expend resources to protect her that he might have put into other things. It’s almost a blue chip as far as power and darkness is concerned.
But this is a fantasy story, and one of the genre rules of fantasy is that prophecies come true, and Jycin’s efforts to subvert that will fail, even if he wants to avoid that pain. But if it’s just the intent of the villains, those can fail.
good point
@ashira 🙂
@nuetrobolt, thank you for all your input 🙂"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@seekjustice, SFI is book 2, right? Ooh, whats the unrelated one? anything I know about?
Decisions is being obstinate. I have a chapter or so left in part 1, and its not wanting to come together very well. I know I should go ahead and write them since its still the first draft, but my perfectionist self won’t let me. I also started a debate on here about whether I should kill off my toddler or not. I’d actually love your input on it.
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@futuro, thank you! and nice to meet you
Have you ever heard of Frank Peretti? He’s a christian author. His books are mainly on spiritual warfare. I’ve only read his teen books, but they’re really good. He could kinda be labeled horror by some people, but I like his stuff because its truth.
Same. there was a time when I was reading way to many romance, but not anymore.
I’m sure you’re past that part now, but its one of my favorite parts in that book!! Now I want to go and reread the series. Guess I’ll have to steal it out of my sister’s room again.
I’ll look into it. I have read some older books, but it usually depends on my mood.
Ah, that makes sense. for me its because I’ve been going to a votech school this year.
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@rochellaine, thank you for the musicals!!! I’m going to try out Barnum tonight.
@seekjustice, and yet you won’t. You will force me to relive his death if I want to read about him. *dramatic sigh*so what have you been up to? It’s been forever since we’ve been awake at the same time
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@seekjustice, (I’m @alia from KP…)
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@seekjustice, EEEEK!!!!!!!! You should surprisingly resurrect Jonas…just an idea 🙂
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@rochellaine, DID YOU SEE THAT KP IS BACK?!?!
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@rochellaine, I can chat a bit if you’re around 🙂
lets see, Newsies, Anastasia, 7 Brides for 7 Brothers, White Christmas, Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast (1994, 2017, and broadway), Wicked, Sound of Music, Mary Poppins, and I’ll stop there, because I could go on forever.
(alia 😉 )
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. LewisYayyyyyyyy! Why didn’t anyone tell me?!?!?!
"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis@myclipboardismyviolin, @nuetrobolt, @ashira, ooh a debate. please carry on as far as possible because this will help me decide. (I figure things out by debating. My sister will come into my room, give me a topic and a side to debate, and we’ll both debate until whoever needed a decision had made it)
Throne Warden, its true, not everyone dies in the real world. But this isn’t set in a real world. Its set in a world where sacrificial death of children is a common practice. In the Old Testament this very subject was dealt with tons of times. In fact, many kings and nations were destroyed and cursed because they did this. I get what you’re saying about how it would ruin the book for you, and that is something to consider. If I follow down that path, I wouldn’t want my younger sisters to read it until they were at least 16. I don’t know how old you are, and so I’m not going to be presumptuous in that. I know tons of adults who also wouldn’t want to read something like that. But the point remains that evil exists in the world, and killing off a child is something everyone can agree is evil. I’m going to be dealing with subtle evil as well, but this blatant evil is critical.
Ashira, you gave a very good argument. Seeing as how if I do kill her off I’ll end up probably failing at doing it justice, I now feel like I have a lot to live up to.
My Clipboard is My Violin, first of all, I play the violin too! So yes, there would be a reason for her to die. I hate it when writers kill off characters for no reason other than to move the plot along. At the very beginning of the story you find out that she is supposed to die if Jycin doesn’t do what the villains want. He runs away with her instead, so basically her dying would fulfill the statement at the beginning. There are other reasons also, but I don’t want to give too much away. I briefly looked into having Jycin sacrifice himself for her, but I didn’t like any of the plot ideas that came if that happened so I had to throw that idea out. I disagree that my writing is to serve the reader. I think that what I write is something that means something to me, and so if it means something to someone else, they’ll read it. I tried to write for the reader once, and my story became very flat. It didn’t have anything of import in it because I was  worried about what the reader might think.
@i-david, well, prompts are always nice too. I mean, its not like I have a ton of story ideas already *pushes notebook full of just that aside*"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis"My prayer is that when I die, all of hell rejoices that I am out of the fight."
- C. S. Lewis
