Hello! Is anybody in the mood to critique a short story? š
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September 6, 2021 at 9:56 pm #137414
Hi! Itās Wingiby Iggiby (a.k.a. Brooke)! I have been absent from the forum for a long while, ever since life decided to go from a trot to a gallop. But I am never gone forever! *cue majestic trumpets and drum-roll*
Anyway . . . . I have a short story (700 words long) that Iād like some honest critique on. Iām planning to enter it in the monthly Kingdom Pen Picture Prompt Short Story contest (my first contest, XD)!
I mostly want to know how well the story flows; if there are any consistency errors; or if its just downright cheesy (bc who wants to enter a cheesy story in a contest?), etc. And, of course, anything else you can think of, including grammatical stuff, bc we all know that language arts is holding a grudge against me. Don’t be at all afraid of offending me, bc I will only be eternally grateful for your honesty š
Anyhow, enough with the jabber. Here it is:
Wooden Dolls
I rested my feet on the pedals and coasted down the hill toward the wharf on my squeaky, derelict bike. The dirt road was smooth, packed down by the passing of many feet now eerily silent. The rickety buildings on either side looked like they mightāve been crying, and in the distance a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against a watery sky.
My shirt clung to my back and my tongue was thick — I really regretted speeding past that well of shimmering water. I could, at least, picture the waterās rippling pattern in my head and refresh my weary mind.
But in the saggy pockets of my brown trousers, I heard wood rattle against wood — tiny dolls no taller than the length of your hand; dolls with dull black eyes.
My heart lurched at the thought of them, and I turned and braked in front of an antiqued shop beside the grey sea.
I pushed open the door and a tiny bell tingled. I emptied the dolls onto a table and sniffled as dust tickled my nostrils. All along the walls were shelves; shelves full of more unnerving dolls. There were old men and women, young boys and girls — even tiny babies. And there were also all sorts of animals. Sunlight sifted through a window, filling the room and glinting off of hundreds of dark black eyes.
In a far corner, a man bent over a table, gently flicking flakes of wood off a chunk of aspen. I cleared my throat — gruffly. His hair was brown, peppered with gray, and it curled out from under a slouching cap. When he turned toward me, the curls flounced.
āThere ya are, Isaac,ā he hummed, picking up one of the dolls I had brought and tracing his fingers over its eyes. āAh, very good, very good. There are more fer ya by the door.ā
I gulped warm water from a ragged flask, gagged, and then sighed. āCanāt I be done?ā
The carpenter looked up. The stubble on his chin quivered and his blue eyes flashed. āNo.ā
I stuck out my lower lip and despised the man even while submissively collecting more dolls.
But these were eyeless dolls.
Goosebumps prickled my skin as I held them.
When I stepped outside into the searing sun, I decided to venture down a cooler side street. After a few minutes, I stopped in front of a tall, shaky building full of musty windows. I stared at it for several moments, feeling my muscles tense. Then I opened the door and let light tumble into a molding kitchen. In the sunās glow I could see two bodies lying on the floor, the rise and fall of their chests almost imperceptible.
A tall man with flaxen hair; a woman with emerald eyes; and then, in a crib, was a tiny baby with hair so fine it was nearly invisible. The cradle was carved with a shaky but loving hand: Lora.
I walked over to the man and pushed the hair back from his face; I kissed the woman on the cheek; and I coddled the babyās tiny fingers in my hand. I glanced about the mournful room and noticed a mouse limp on the floor by the wall.
I tiptoed over, and placed a teeny mouse doll next to it. Then I squinted my eyes shut, took a deep breath, and pushed down on the mouseās body. A small burst of air puffed out of its mouth, and two black eyes appeared on the dollās face.
Itās life was ādolledā for the carpenter.
I stared at the small body while stinging remorse filled my heart until it throbbed. Then I bit my lip as warm tears slid down my cheeks and I clenched my fists, inhaling sharply.
No longer. I couldnāt do this any longer. No more would I be his servant! I refused to steal the souls of the people I loved.Ā
Even if that meant he dolled me too.
I walked over to the cradle and picked up the baby. She was light in my arms. Then I stepped toward the door.
The sunās light was golden.
Golden like my sisterās eyes.
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I didn’t mention this above bc I didn’t want to influence you before you read it, but do you think I ought to show more of Isaac’s thoughts, and therefore less of the descriptions? š
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 7, 2021 at 12:45 am #137418@wingiby-iggiby I would be up for that!
I definitely agree with showing more of Isaac’s thoughts.Ā I think that it would help me to connect with him as a person, and also could help reveal some background, such as why he’s forced to “doll” people for the carpenter.
One of the things that I noticed was that you have a lot of description, which is good, but some of it doesn’t seem to contribute to the general flow of the story.Ā One thing that I really like is to cut down on words by using verbs.Ā Here’s an example:
“The rickety buildings on either side looked like they mightāve been crying, and in the distance a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against a watery sky.”
“The rickety buildings on either side wept, as a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against the watery sky.”
Another thing that I think is really important is consistency in description.Ā You have some very good description, but some of it lacks consistency, either within the story, or in the real world.
“The rickety buildings on either side looked like they mightāve been crying, and in the distance a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against a watery sky.”
Here, the italicized part broke the flow because it is extremely specific, and not consistent with what we see in the real world.Ā I really like the description of twisted fingers, but it doesn’t line up because the tower and windmills are straight, inorganic shapes (I assume) and fingers are bent and organic.
“The rickety buildings on either side wept.Ā In the distance, a tower and two windmills pierced the sky like broken nails.”
You could go even further and change a tower and two windmills to something like derelict buildings to cut down on words.
I would recommend seeing if you can split up and rearrange some of the descriptions.Ā Get the basics down at the very beginning (environment, character, etc.), then narrow your scope as the story progresses.Ā I hope this helped!
*laughs as one fey*
September 7, 2021 at 2:38 am #137419WINGIBY!! I missed you so much!! *Bowls you over with a massive hug*
OooOh, I love that story! It’s creepy and hopeful at the same time! I love the concept, and Isaac seems like an interesting character!
Okay, here are a few things I’d change. I’m mostly focusing on paragraph-level.
I rested my feet on the pedals and coasted down the hill toward the wharf on my squeaky, derelict bike. The dirt road was smooth, packed down by the passing of many feet now eerily silent. The rickety buildings on either side looked like they mightāve been crying, and in the distance a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against a watery sky.
Okay, Calidris covered that last sentence, and I shall cover the first two!
It seems you’re getting your descriptions slightly out of order, though they’re good in and of themselves.
I rested my feet on the pedals and coasted down the hill toward the wharf on my squeaky, derelict bike.
You can cut “I rested my feet on the pedals” since it doesn’tĀ reallyĀ add anything to the story. If you just say he’s coasting down a hill, that’s assumed. Also, you might want to show his bike squeaking and rattling, contrasting it against the silence of the street.
The dirt road was smooth, packed down by the passing of many feet now eerily silent.
The eerily silent part feels tacked on, like an afterthought. If you show that earlier, you can cut it out entirely. And you can take out that the road is smooth, so you’d get something like this:
The dirt road had been packed down by the passing of many feet. No more. Now it was just me and my rattling bike.
My shirt clung to my back and my tongue was thick ā I really regretted speeding past that well of shimmering water. I could, at least, picture the waterās rippling pattern in my head and refresh my weary mind.
Instead of saying he regretted it, you can show him regretting it by thinking something like “I should have stopped by the well of shimmering water.”
Also, the mood in your scene is good, I really like it! But the well of fresh water rather contrasts against it. If it was murky or dull, it would add to the mood of the scene.
Unless you deliberately want that contrast for symbolism! It could be cool!
But in the saggy pockets of my brown trousers, I heard wood rattle against wood ā tiny dolls no taller than the length of your hand; dolls with dull black eyes.
Considering what we learn later, you can even expand on their eyes, to add a little more creepiness to it. He could think about how the dull eyes never sparkled and how they seemed to gaze into him reproachfully.
Oh, and you’re filtering! “I heard–”
You could simplify that into: Wood rattled against wood in the sagging pockets of my trousers–
My heart lurched at the thought of them, and I turned and braked in front of an antiqued shop beside the grey sea.
I pushed open the door and a tiny bell tingled. I emptied the dolls onto a table and sniffled as dust tickled my nostrils. All along the walls were shelves; shelves full of more unnerving dolls. There were old men and women, young boys and girls ā even tiny babies. And there were also all sorts of animals. Sunlight sifted through a window, filling the room and glinting off of hundreds of dark black eyes.
This is pretty cool! I think the only thing I’d change is to add a little more of Isaac’s internal thoughts and actions. And maybe describe the inside of the shop in a really broad way? Something like: “There was no speck of color, the wood of the dolls blended into the wooden walls, only interrupted by those hundreds of glaring eyes.”
In a far corner, a man bent over a table, gently flicking flakes of wood off a chunk of aspen. I cleared my throat ā gruffly. His hair was brown, peppered with gray, and it curled out from under a slouching cap. When he turned toward me, the curls flounced.
I like this description, but you’re describing a few things twice. Like his hair curling. You could cut the italic sentence entirely and simply say: Gray-streaked curls bounced out from beneath a slouching cap as he turned toward me.
āThere ya are, Isaac,ā he hummed, picking up one of the dolls I had brought and tracing his fingers over its eyes. āAh, very good, very good. There are more fer ya by the door.ā
I gulped warm water from a ragged flask, gagged, and then sighed. āCanāt I be done?ā
The carpenter looked up. The stubble on his chin quivered and his blue eyes flashed. āNo.ā
Okay, this is pretty good, but you can add more of Isaac’s thoughts here. What’s his relationship with the carpenter? Is he scared? Regretful? Uncertain? You say he despised him, but you can expand on that even more.
Also, you can add stakes. What would happen if he stopped? What keeps him coming back?
I stuck out my lower lip and despised the man even while submissively collecting more dolls.
But these were eyeless dolls.
Goosebumps prickled my skin as I held them.
When I stepped outside into the searing sun, I decided to venture down a cooler side street. After a few minutes, I stopped in front of a tall, shaky building full of musty windows. I stared at it for several moments, feeling my muscles tense.
Okay, I’m going to suggest a bit of poetic irony. To enhance the mood of the scene, you could possibly make it overcast, the whole world washed out with gray. And then when he steps outside with his sister, you can have the golden sun come out. This works too, I just think it would be cool!
Then I opened the door and let light tumble into a molding kitchen. In the sunās glow I could see two bodies lying on the floor, the rise and fall of their chests almost imperceptible.
A tall man with flaxen hair; a woman with emerald eyes; and then, in a crib, was a tiny baby with hair so fine it was nearly invisible. The cradle was carved with a shaky but loving hand:Ā Lora.
I walked over to the man and pushed the hair back from his face; I kissed the woman on the cheek; and I coddled the babyās tiny fingers in my hand. I glanced about the mournful room and noticed a mouse limp on the floor by the wall.
Now, I’m assuming this is his family, and he seems to love them, but you can expand on his thoughts here. (If it isn’t his family, I’d clarify that) Why are they still asleep? (Also, if they’re asleep, it doesn’t make sense to describe the woman’s eye color as though he’s seeing it.) Have they been dolled already? Is he the only one taking care of the family?
I tiptoed over, and placed a teeny mouse doll next to it. Then I squinted my eyes shut, took a deep breath, and pushed down on the mouseās body. A small burst of air puffed out of its mouth, and two black eyes appeared on the dollās face.
Itās life was ādolledā for the carpenter.
I stared at the small body while stinging remorse filled my heart until it throbbed. Then I bit my lip as warm tears slid down my cheeks and I clenched my fists, inhaling sharply.
Okay, it’s interesting that you chose to do a reveal here, I quite like it! Isaac seems quite good-hearted.
No longer. I couldnāt do thisĀ any longer. No more would I be his servant! IĀ refusedĀ to steal the souls of the people I loved.
Even if that meant he dolled me too.
But in order for that to work, you’ll have to establish stakes earlier. I don’t know what he’s giving up or risking by deciding to go. You’re implying he would be dolled too, but why? Is it a punishment? You could clear up the carpenter’s motivations in the conversation. You don’t need to expand on it too much, just hint at it.
I walked over to the cradle and picked up the baby. She was light in my arms. Then I stepped toward the door.
The sunās light was golden.
Golden like my sisterās eyes.
Okay, I love the ending! But I’m wondering, is the rest of his family already dolled? Why is he leaving them behind? Where is he going? You could leave that vague, but you could also have him look out at sea and think about a land that isn’t ruled by such an evil man. Or something, I don’t know XD
Anyway, loved reading it! And I’m so happy to see you again! How have you been? What have you been up to? How has the writing been?
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
September 7, 2021 at 2:23 pm #137421Thanks so much, yāall!!! I really appreciate it!! I couldn’t exactly put my finger on the issues, but you guys hit the nail on the head! Iāve got a way better understanding of what Iāve gotta do now.
I definitely agree with showing more of Isaacās thoughts.Ā I think that it would help me to connect with him as a person, and also could help reveal some background, such as why heās forced to ādollā people for the carpenter.
Definitely! Now that I look back on it, heās just sort of āthere,ā lol
One of the things that I noticed was that you have a lot of description, which is good, but some of it doesnāt seem to contribute to the general flow of the story.Ā One thing that I really like is to cut down on words by using verbs.Ā Hereās an example:
āThe rickety buildings on either side looked like they mightāve been crying, and in the distance a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against a watery sky.ā
āThe rickety buildings on either side wept, as a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against the watery sky.ā
Ah, yes! Thank you — that will help with word count as well.
Another thing that I think is really important is consistency in description.Ā You have some very good description, but some of it lacks consistency, either within the story, or in the real world.
āThe rickety buildings on either side looked like they mightāve been crying, and in the distance a tower and two windmills rose like twisted fingers against a watery sky.ā
Here, the italicized part broke the flow because it is extremely specific, and not consistent with what we see in the real world.Ā I really like the description of twisted fingers, but it doesnāt line up because the tower and windmills are straight, inorganic shapes (I assume) and fingers are bent and organic.
āThe rickety buildings on either side wept.Ā In the distance, a tower and two windmills pierced the sky like broken nails.ā
You could go even further and change a tower and two windmills to something like derelict buildings to cut down on words.
Ha ha, youāre totally right! Iāve never seen a bendy windmill . . . . thx!
I would recommend seeing if you can split up and rearrange some of the descriptions.Ā Get the basics down at the very beginning (environment, character, etc.), then narrow your scope as the story progresses.Ā I hope this helped!
This totally helps! I tend to forget that short stories are more focused on the character instead of the setting. Thank you for taking the time to critique; Iām so glad I posted this here!!
HELLO!!!!!! So good to āseeā you again!! Iāve totally missed yāall!!
And Iām so glad you like it š Iām also glad I got the creepy and hopefulness down, ācause thatās what I was subconsciously going for.
You can cut āI rested my feet on the pedalsā since it doesnāt really add anything to the story. If you just say heās coasting down a hill, thatās assumed. Also, you might want to show his bike squeaking and rattling, contrasting it against the silence of the street.
The eerily silent part feels tacked on, like an afterthought. If you show that earlier, you can cut it out entirely. And you can take out that the road is smooth, so youād get something like this:
The dirt road had been packed down by the passing of many feet. No more. Now it was just me and my rattling bike.
Ohhhh yes! That would totally be better. Contrasting is a great technique!
Instead of saying he regretted it, you can show him regretting it by thinking something like āI should have stopped by the well of shimmering water.ā
Also, the mood in your scene is good, I really like it! But the well of fresh water rather contrasts against it. If it was murky or dull, it would add to the mood of the scene.
Unless you deliberately want that contrast for symbolism! It could be cool!
Yes, the water does contrast (Iām using my contrasting backwards XD) The well is actually shown in the picture prompt, and the water is this rich turquoise, so it stood out. What I could do is to perhaps use the fresh water to lead to thoughts longing for his once beautiful world . . .
Considering what we learn later, you can even expand on their eyes, to add a little more creepiness to it. He could think about how the dull eyes never sparkled and how they seemed to gaze into him reproachfully.
Oh, and youāre filtering! āI heardāā
You could simplify that into: Wood rattled against wood in the sagging pockets of my trousersā
Oooooo! Yes! Creepiness factors! Perfect!
This is pretty cool! I think the only thing Iād change is to add a little more of Isaacās internal thoughts and actions. And maybe describe the inside of the shop in a really broad way? Something like: āThere was no speck of color, the wood of the dolls blended into the wooden walls, only interrupted by those hundreds of glaring eyes.ā
Definitely; Iāve gotta work within the word count!
I like this description, but youāre describing a few things twice. Like his hair curling. You could cut the italic sentence entirely and simply say: Gray-streaked curls bounced out from beneath a slouching cap as he turned toward me.
Yes, bad habit of mine š
Okay, this is pretty good, but you can add more of Isaacās thoughts here. Whatās his relationship with the carpenter? Is he scared? Regretful? Uncertain? You say he despised him, but you can expand on that even more.
Also, you can add stakes. What would happen if he stopped? What keeps him coming back?
YES!!! I knew those things were missing, I just couldnāt pinpoint them. Thx!
Okay, Iām going to suggest a bit of poetic irony. To enhance the mood of the scene, you could possibly make it overcast, the whole world washed out with gray. And then when he steps outside with his sister, you can have the golden sun come out. This works too, I just think it would be cool!
That is a perfect idea!
Now, Iām assuming this is his family, and he seems to love them, but you can expand on his thoughts here. (If it isnāt his family, Iād clarify that) Why are they still asleep? (Also, if theyāre asleep, it doesnāt make sense to describe the womanās eye color as though heās seeing it.) Have they been dolled already? Is he the only one taking care of the family?
Yes, theyāre family, and youāre totally right: he doesnāt have x-ray vision š
Okay, itās interesting that you chose to do a reveal here, I quite like it! Isaac seems quite good-hearted.
Thank you (and he is)! š
But in order for that to work, youāll have to establish stakes earlier. I donāt know what heās giving up or risking by deciding to go. Youāre implying he would be dolled too, but why? Is it a punishment? You could clear up the carpenterās motivations in the conversation. You donāt need to expand on it too much, just hint at it.
Exactly! This is extremely helpful!
Okay, I love the ending! But Iām wondering, is the rest of his family already dolled? Why is he leaving them behind? Where is he going? You could leave that vague, but you could also have him look out at sea and think about a land that isnāt ruled by such an evil man. Or something, I donāt know XD
Good idea; I always did hate stories that left me with no clear idea of what might happen afterwards! Thanks so much!
And how are you? Iāve been great — just been up to ālife,ā lol. Iāve started my Physics class, and Iām taking piano. My writingās been off and on, but I plan on entering each of these little contests to hone my skills (of which I donāt have very many XD). Howās your fantasy series been coming along? Is Liorah still into trouble (nevermind, I know the answer to that š )?
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 7, 2021 at 2:35 pm #137422@wingiby-iggiby of course!Ā I’m glad I could help š
*laughs as one fey*
September 7, 2021 at 2:42 pm #137423Yes, the water does contrast (Iām using my contrasting backwards XD) The well is actually shown in the picture prompt, and the water is this rich turquoise, so it stood out. What IĀ couldĀ do is to perhaps use the fresh water to lead to thoughts longing for his once beautiful world . . .
That’s a brilliant idea! *Hurriedly looks up picture prompt* Wow, your description was flawless! That looks exactly like I imagined it!
Yes, bad habit of mine
LOL, same! I either describe nothing or describe everything four times XD
Good idea; I always did hate stories that left me with no clear idea of what might happen afterwards! Thanks so much!
You’re totally welcome! I can’t wait to see it in its proper place as the winner! š You did awesomely and I’m glad I got to read it! It had me thinking about it for hours afterward.
And how are you? Iāve been great ā just been up to ālife,ā lol. Iāve started my Physics class, and Iām taking piano. My writingās been off and on, but I plan on entering each of these little contests to hone my skills (of which I donāt have very many XD).
That’s awesome!
Physics buddies! *High fives* My books should arrive tomorrow, and then I have to suffer through that for the next year. I have biology and physics as my exam subjects this year. (whY did I choose so many sciences? I hate science! XD Oh, wait. The alternative was geography and economy. Blech.)
That’s so cool, piano is a lovely instrument! Don’t you play guitar too?
Oh, I can’t wait to read your fabulous stories! Please do post them on here if you feel like it, I love reading them!
Howās your fantasy series been coming along? Is Liorah still into trouble (nevermind, I know the answer to thatĀ Ā )?
OOh, I can barely keep hold of the little brat XD *Whacks Liorah over the head with both manuscripts.* Stop! Picking! Fights! With! Everyone!
I finished the first draft of the second book a few weeks ago! It ended up being 120k long, which was longer than I’d thought but I’m really proud of it! And now I’m going back to rewriting book 1!
And I’m kicking the ideas for that Edwardian standalone into a corner because it won’t leave me alone but I can’t start writing it now XD
And yours? Are you still working on Dancrow and Kiark’s manuscripts?
Besides that, (home)school started this week, so my time has suddenly diminished XD I’ve been drawing a lot over the vacation, otherwise just life as usual š
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
September 8, 2021 at 4:40 pm #137463Thatās a brilliant idea! *Hurriedly looks up picture prompt* Wow, your description was flawless! That looks exactly like I imagined it!
Thank you! š
Youāre totally welcome! I canāt wait to see it in its proper place as the winner! š You did awesomely and Iām glad I got to read it! It had me thinking about it for hours afterward.
Aw, thanks! I’m so glad you liked it š
Physics buddies! *High fives* My books should arrive tomorrow, and then I have to suffer through that for the next year. I have biology and physics as my exam subjects this year. (whY did I choose so many sciences? I hate science! XD Oh, wait. The alternative was geography and economy. Blech.)
Whoa, ouch! I feel your pain, XD!
Thatās so cool, piano is a lovely instrument! Donāt you play guitar too?
I know! I love piano š And yeah, I was taking guitar lessons, but then I decided I wanted to swap them for piano, so yeah, now I’m playing piano.
Oh, I canāt wait to read your fabulous stories! Please do post them on here if you feel like it, I love reading them!
Oh, thanks! I will totally do that! And if you have any stories I’d love to read them! I’m not sure how great critique I could give, but I just love reading that stuff for the sake of reading it anyway, lol
OOh, I can barely keep hold of the little brat XD *Whacks Liorah over the head with both manuscripts.* Stop! Picking! Fights! With! Everyone!
XD š But you’ve gotta admit: her type of character is one of the most fun to write! Which is your favorite character out of your novels?
I finished the first draft of the second book a few weeks ago! It ended up being 120k long, which was longer than Iād thought but Iām really proud of it! And now Iām going back to rewriting book 1!
*Blows and horn and spouts confetti and runs around with a cake above her head screaming “whoo! whoo! whoooo!!!” I congratulate you!!!! That isĀ awesome!!!!Ā (Especially since I’ve never finished any novel and so I know how much stamina its got to take)
And Iām kicking the ideas for that Edwardian standalone into a corner because it wonāt leave me alone but I canāt start writing it now XD
Oooo, was that the one with the dressmaker in it, if I remember right? And those “plot bunnies” areĀ soĀ annoying!!
And yours? Are you still working on Dancrow and Kiarkās manuscripts?
*shuffles feet and looks at the ceiling* So, no . . . . I can’t stay focused for long, lol. Right now I’m working on another fantasy, but I amĀ determinedĀ NOT to give up on it. I will plod forward if only an inch at a time until it comes to realization. That is if I don’t see another plot bunny first. (oh, and you remembered their names!)
Besides that, (home)school started this week, so my time has suddenly diminished XD Iāve been drawing a lot over the vacation, otherwise just life as usual š
Totally get it! Add that to getting distracted watching Studio C on YouTube, and that’s why IĀ never get anything done š
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 9, 2021 at 3:59 pm #137570I know! I love pianoĀ Ā And yeah, I was taking guitar lessons, but then I decided I wanted to swap them for piano, so yeah, now Iām playing piano.
That’s so cool! I’m still playing harp. Can you read sheet music yet? I remember what an absolute struggle that was to learn XD Learning to sight-read was an uphill battle and until then I had to memorize the songs XD
Did you know harp and piano can mostly use the same music? I have a limited amount of modulations I can do, (E, A and B flat, and C, D, F, G sharp) and some runs are harder, but otherwise it’s really similar! What’s your favorite kind of music to play?
Oh, thanks! I will totally do that! And if you have any stories Iād love to read them! Iām not sure how great critique I could give, but I just love reading that stuff for the sake of reading it anyway, lol
LOL, I’m afraid Liorah is a jealous brat and doesn’t allow me to do anything else XD I’ve actually never tried short stories, though I do want to! I might end up doing a few over the winter!
XDĀ Ā But youāve gotta admit: her type of character is one of the most fun to write! Which is your favorite character out of your novels?
Totally! Liorah, hands down! I can’t help it, she makes me love her. She can be a frustrating pest sometimes but she’s sosoĀ alive.Ā She’s one of the most vivid characters I’ve ever written and her voice comes easily to me. I love all my characters, but Liorah is closest to me XD I’d say my other favorites are Ziyad, Chantara, Faye, Gavril, and Ferran.
Ziyad is probably the most complicated character in my WIP. I won’t give too much away, but every time I write him he throws me for a loop. He’s layered and complex and oftentimes not at all loveable.
Gavril is one of the characters I relate the most to. He’s my classical hero character, trying to bear the whole world on his shoulders and crumbling under the weight.
I didn’t like Ferran at first, but he really grew on me. He’s sweet and he and Liorah are a great dynamic together.
Chantara is a straight-up villain. She scares the daylights out of me, she really does. But like Liorah, she’s layered and so very alive.
And Faye is my precious smol cinnamon roll who must be protected at all costs. She’s my baby.
LOL, sorry, I can’t resist ranting about my characters. XD What are your favorites in your current WIP?
*Blows and horn and spouts confetti and runs around with a cake above her head screaming āwhoo! whoo! whoooo!!!ā I congratulate you!!!! That isĀ awesome!!!!Ā (Especially since Iāve never finished any novel and so I know how much stamina its got to take)
Thank you!!! I’m so happy I managed to finish it! How come? Do you usually get new ideas or do you just fall out of love with it?
Oooo, was that the one with the dressmaker in it, if I remember right? And those āplot bunniesā areĀ soĀ annoying!!
You remembered! That’s the one! Though, by this time, it’s almost a full-fledged story. It has also evolved into what might be a heist story with lots of betrayals and plot twists XD Most of the characters are almost fully realized, only unnamed. I have almost half the plot XD And I keep trying to push it down because I’m working on something else XD
*shuffles feet and looks at the ceiling* So, no . . . . I canāt stay focused for long, lol. Right now Iām working on another fantasy, but I amĀ determinedĀ NOT to give up on it. I will plod forward if only an inch at a time until it comes to realization. That is if I donāt see another plot bunny first. (oh, and you remembered their names!)
Ooh, that’s so cool! Tell me about it! I want to know everything! Also, if you ever get back to Kiark and Dancrow’s stories, I still want to read them š They sound so incredible and awesome!
Totally get it! Add that to getting distracted watching Studio C on YouTube, and thatās why IĀ never get anything done
LOL, YES! Distraction is everywhere!! XD
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
September 9, 2021 at 5:19 pm #137683Thatās so cool! Iām still playing harp. Can you read sheet music yet? I remember what an absolute struggle that was to learn XD Learning to sight-read was an uphill battle and until then I had to memorize the songs XD
Oh, the harp is such a beautiful instrument! And yes, I can read music, but I’ve only memorized one song (well, most of it); do you have a lot memorized? And reading music is soĀ hard, especially when those notes go way up or down, LOL
Did you know harp and piano can mostly use the same music? I have a limited amount of modulations I can do, (E, A and B flat, and C, D, F, G sharp) and some runs are harder, but otherwise itās really similar! Whatās your favorite kind of music to play?
No, I didn’t! That’s so cool! I think my favorite type of music to play might be theme songs, but I like swing too, bc swinging notes is just “jazzy.” Then again, I feel elegant playing classical, lol What about you?
LOL, Iām afraid Liorah is a jealous brat and doesnāt allow me to do anything else XD Iāve actually never tried short stories, though I do want to! I might end up doing a few over the winter!
Well, if you do write ’em, I’ll read ’em! (and tell Liorah Brooke says she needs to share š )
LOL, sorry, I canāt resist ranting about my characters. XD What are your favorites in your current WIP?
All of your characters sound SO AWESOME! I would totally love to meet all of them, and if you ever publish those books, let me know! Could you tell me more about Chantara and Ziyad (if you don’t mind)? They sound really interesting! Do you have a method for coming up with characters, or do they just sort of “pop” into the story as you go?
Ah, and my favorite characters. Here we go! *rubs hands together and takes a deep breath*
I really love Chaha, the MC. She tends to say the wrong things at the wrong times, and she fakes optimism while inwardly wailing about anything that might go wrong. She also wails about her oily hair. She tends to be impatient, but is really caring and braver than she thinks. I haven’t gotten her all figured out yet, bc I’m still figuring out the first chapters of the book XD
And then there’s Chet, the cowboy. I feel really bad for him *sigh* He fell into the wrong company and did some bad things *another sigh* He’s sort of like the lion in The Wizard of Oz, in that he believes he is courage-less, and so when he stands up for his friends and then *starts sniffling* I’m just going to go cry into my pillow now. . .
In short, I just love all of them, so it would take forever to explain, haha, but I do like Nakkali too, because he is so interesting and stern and imposing and has a negative character arc *laughs evilly*
Thank you!!! Iām so happy I managed to finish it! How come? Do you usually get new ideas or do you just fall out of love with it?
For both of those reasons combined XD Sometimes, though, ideas from those stories will make their way into my new ones, so its interesting.
You remembered! Thatās the one! Though, by this time, itās almost a full-fledged story. It has also evolved into what might be a heist story with lots of betrayals and plot twists XD Most of the characters are almost fully realized, only unnamed. I have almost half the plot XD And I keep trying to push it down because Iām working on something else XD
Oh man, that sounds so EPIC!!! I can see why you’re having a hard time avoiding it, lol If you ever need to rant about it to someone, I’d love to hear it!
Ooh, thatās so cool! Tell me about it! I want to know everything! Also, if you ever get back to Kiark and Dancrowās stories, I still want to read them š They sound so incredible and awesome!
Thank you! Maybe someday in the future I will resurrect their stories and bring them to fruition! As for my currect WIP, its that one I think I mentioned a while ago about the girl, Chaha, going on a quest to kill a silver tiger to save her sister from going mad. Chaha and her family are forced to leave the Kidishi mountains, because the bad-guy hired raiders from the country of Aride to do his dirty work. But then Chaha’s sister, Ihina, get poisoned (long story), and then an old lady tells them they have to kill the fabled silver tiger so Ihina can drink its blood. Then they go on a quest and run into new allies and dangers and get attacked by stuff and get themselves lost, etc. They also realize the bad-guy, Bagha-Pagala, alsoĀ wants to drink the silver tiger’s blood. The main villian of this story is actually one of the hired raiders (Chet was once a raider), and I was planning to give him a redemption arc, somehow.
Okay, that was a mouthful. I hope you were able to swallow that without choking, XD I just love how we can talk and talk about our stories on here, and as fellow writers, we all get it!
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 9, 2021 at 8:32 pm #137873*kinda peeks inā¦*
OH @WINGIBY-IGGIBY I MISSED YOU!!!! *bowls over with a hug!*
Oooh *reads shortstory. Oiā¦dolls, eyeless dolls, soul stealing/twistingā¦*glances uneasily at my current WIP** That was a fantastic story! Just kinda popping in I think everybody already covered whatever I was gonna critique, but I will add I would legit read a longer story about this Isaac and his interesting situation there <3
Anyway, HI! š
To be a light to the world you must shine in the darkness.
September 10, 2021 at 7:15 am #139379, the harp is such a beautiful instrument! And yes, I can read music, but Iāve only memorized one song (well, most of it); do you have a lot memorized? And reading music is so hard, especially when those notes go way up or down, LOL
LOL, nope! Just this week, my harp teacher asked me to play a song from memory. (I know it really well, I can play it perfectly without even thinking about it) and I couldn’t do it at all XD If I focus on memorizing one I could, but I haven’t for quite a while. Though, muscle memory is a blessing. I can’t even count the times it kicked in in the middle of the song although I was zoning out and my fingers just remembered what to do XD
LOL, yes! I usually have to squint at those a lot XD I always get them mixed up XDNo, I didnāt! Thatās so cool! I think my favorite type of music to play might be theme songs, but I like swing too, bc swinging notes is just ājazzy.ā Then again, I feel elegant playing classical, lol What about you?
YES! Swing is the best! I have been known to put swing in pieces that don’t have it because it’s more fun XD My harp teacher thinks that’s hilarious XD
I’ve tried in vain to like classical music, but it’s hard and I get bored XD I think my favorite is definitely folk, especially Celtic and South American. It’s just too much fun! My favorites are by Ortiz. (Oh, his books are for piano too! I have the International Rhythmic Collection parts one and two.) My favorite songs are Habanera Gris and Danza de Luzma. Look them up, they’re really pretty! What are your favorite songs to play?
Well, if you do write āem, Iāll read āem! (and tell Liorah Brooke says she needs to share š )
Thanks, I’ll remember that! LOL, I’ll tell her, but will she listen? XD
All of your characters sound SO AWESOME! I would totally love to meet all of them, and if you ever publish those books, let me know! Could you tell me more about Chantara and Ziyad (if you donāt mind)? They sound really interesting! Do you have a method for coming up with characters, or do they just sort of āpopā into the story as you go?
Aww, thank you so much! Publishing isn’t the current plan, but I’m having fun with it š
OOh, of course!!!
I can’t tell you any details about Ziyad because it’s kinda spoilers. He has kinda a tragic backstory so he has his…. issues. And because of character agency, that means he’s made a lot of really bad choices XD He’s honestly a mess, but he really tries and I love him for it. I think he has a genuinely good heart and good intentions (mostly) but he’s been dealt a really bad hand and he can’t seem to escape it.
He isn’t a POV character, so I know less about him than you’d expect XD
Chantara is in a kinda similar situation, actually XD I can tell you more about it because it isn’t some big reveal. She’s an assassin and she regrets it every second of her life XD She has more empathy than you’d expect, so it’s extremely traumatizing for her. She’s been so thoroughly messed up she’s become a villain.
But unlike Ziyad, she doesn’t try to start over or get a better life. She’s decided there’s no way out of it so she might as well make the best of it, no matter what that entails. In her case, that entails a lot of murder.
She’s very manipulative and sly, and an amazing liar. But I think my favorite part about her is that she has some good in her. She’s very loyal and close to her friends, and she takes things to heart a lot. I have her in the Villain’s character castle so I write a lot of her POV, and it’s fascinating to see how she’s constantly at war with herself. She’s the kind of side character who could get an entire spinoff to herself XD
Method for coming up with characters…. Well, it usually starts with a concept. Sometimes the concept is a part of a character dynamic like “Annoying kid and world-weary mentor”.
Like, I have a side character (One of Chantara’s friends) who started with the concept of a really cheerful, funny, nice person who’s also basically a psychopath but doesn’t realize it. XD (He’s fun! XD)
And then I’ll usually fit that character somewhere in the story and give them a role, and then I try to figure out why they became that way. And then I figure out what they’d do in the story. Their appearance develops somewhere along the way š
How about you? How do you do it?
I really love Chaha, the MC. She tends to say the wrong things at the wrong times, and she fakes optimism while inwardly wailing about anything that might go wrong. She also wails about her oily hair. She tends to be impatient, but is really caring and braver than she thinks. I havenāt gotten her all figured out yet, bc Iām still figuring out the first chapters of the book XD
LOL, wailing about your hair is a universal experience XD There’s a fine line between “Messy romantic waves” and “birds nest” and I use it as a jump rope XD She sounds awesome! I think I’d love her!
And then thereās Chet, the cowboy. I feelĀ reallyĀ bad for him *sigh* He fell into the wrong company and did some bad things *another sigh* Heās sort of like the lion in The Wizard of Oz, in that he believes he is courage-less, and so when he stands up for his friends and then *starts sniffling* Iām just going to go cry into my pillow now. . .
He sounds like Ziyad! I love characters like that! They’re my absolute favorites! (Next to the sassy ones like Li’ah XD)
In short, I just love all of them, so it would take forever to explain, haha, but I do like Nakkali too, because he is so interesting and stern and imposing and has a negative character arc *laughs evilly*
Negative character arcs are awesome! I love them, I have one I’m planning and it would be so cool!
For both of those reasons combined XD Sometimes, though, ideas from those stories will make their way into my new ones, so its interesting.
Ooh, that’s cool! I love it when that happens! I do the same thing! Like, the character I described above, Chantara’s friend, he only has like two scenes, so his character concept is probably going to be recycled into the Edwardian story!
Oh man, that sounds so EPIC!!! I can see why youāre having a hard time avoiding it, lol If you ever need to rant about it to someone, Iād love to hear it!
Thank you! I’m so excited about it! It has the coolest aesthetic, it’s kinda Art Noveau and Rococo mixed up, to fit the combination of 1700s and Edwardian. Like… think Pirates of the Caribbean meets Phantom of the Opera XD It’s just the coolest!
The pirate idea is definitely still a large part of the plot! I love it, it’s just so fun! But now it’s basically pirates vs. secret agents in a heist setting, so that’s going to beĀ chaosĀ XD And there are a few side characters who were circus artists, a sharpshooter, an escape artist, and an acrobat. (And the sharpshooter and the other two are on opposite sides and hate each other.)
There will be at least one masquerade ball, and research involves how to pick locks, weaponize jewelry, and how corsets could turn bullets.Ā I have no idea what I’m doing but I love it!
Okay, that was a mouthful. I hope you were able to swallow that without choking, XD I just love how we can talk and talk about our stories on here, and as fellow writers, we all get it!
Yes! I remembered something about a tiger XD That soundsĀ amazing!!! Wow, I love the premise! What’s your favorite part about it? How far into it are you? I don’t remember, are you a plotter or a pantser?
Also, yes! Connecting to other writers is the best, they all just get it! I have to keep myself from talking in detailed jargon about my WIP to everyone else, let alone writer humor. Like: “Oh, I’m going to murder a character this afternoon, wish me luck! XD” or “Do you think he’s miserable enough? I think I can make it worse…” and talking with great enthusiasm in upsetting detail about stuff like poison LOL XD Apparently, other people don’t get that XD
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
September 13, 2021 at 9:54 pm #142136Checking to see if this will post . . . .
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 15, 2021 at 8:53 pm #142152And will this post? Sorry, it wasn’t working for me lol >_<
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 15, 2021 at 9:02 pm #142154CATHY!!!!!!! *screams with excitement and joy and scares all birds within a five mile radius*
Oooh *reads shortstory. Oiā¦dolls, eyeless dolls, soul stealing/twistingā¦*glances uneasily at my current WIP** That was a fantastic story! Just kinda popping in I think everybody already covered whatever I was gonna critique, but I will add I would legit read a longer story about this Isaac and his interesting situation there <3
Aw, thank you so much!! I’m so glad you like it š Btw, how are Rosario and Ehud? Are they getting along? Does Rosario still think Ehud’s ridiculous? I miss them! I miss all of the characters, actually, lol It’s funny how I get to know y’all through your characters š
I light the arrow, pull the bow,
Shoot that fire right through my soul.September 15, 2021 at 9:09 pm #142157@rose-colored-fancy Ā (Iām posting this in segments to see if that will make it go through . . .)
LOL, nope! Just this week, my harp teacher asked me to play a song from memory. (I know it really well, I can play it perfectly without even thinking about it) and I couldnāt do it at all XD If I focus on memorizing one I could, but I havenāt for quite a while. Though, muscle memory is a blessing. I canāt even count the times it kicked in in the middle of the song although I was zoning out and my fingers just remembered what to do XD
LOL, yes! I usually have to squint at those a lot XD I always get them mixed up XD
Yes, muscle memory is amazing! I love it so much š Our bodies are so awesome, lol (but my mind blanks out on stuff all the time, so yeah . . . . š )
YES! Swing is the best! I have been known to put swing in pieces that donāt have it because itās more fun XD My harp teacher thinks thatās hilarious XD
Oh my goodness, I do the same thing!!!!! I was playing Canon in D and I couldn’t get rid of the swing unless my teacher counted the beat for me XD
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