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@his-bard wrote:

In real history, probably no real reason for the west to start a second secession, other than because they probably could’ve gotten away with it.

But in my story timeline, the town that sparks the new secession movement is under the leadership of individuals who are fed up with Federal over-reach. They disagree with the Civil War, they disagree with all the conflicts with the Native Americans, they feel that the government is very quickly reverting back to a state of ‘taxation without representation’, and various other issues as well, which drives them to the decision to start over. And in modern times, this autonomous government is really glad that it did what it did when it did it, cause its shaking its head at the US and how we are, in real life, controlled by two corrupt political parties, how we’ve been in a constant state of war for over 30 years, and how we brought ourselves to the brink of financial collapse.

I know at this point, my story sounds like its built on top of all kinds of conspiracy theories. And to be 100% honest, it is. But throughout life, I’ve seen evidence which seems to suggest many conspiracies, myths, legends, etc are often based on some element of truth. Which is why I run with them so much. I’m not declaring any conspiracies to be true, nor am I declaring wrong what we’ve been taught in our history books. All I want to do is incite questions, get more people interested in digging for truth, regardless of whatever that actual truth might turn out to be.

I agree with you. Have you read the book, “The Lost Order“, by Steve Berry? That is one of the books I read that started to change my mind on this whole issue. Sure, there is a lot of speculation and an obviously fictitious storyline, but the facts are still there.

The Civil War was a war of successionism, not slavery. The issue was their right to succeed from the Union, no matter the reason why. Abraham Lincoln, in different speeches, made that pretty clear. The Constitution, speaking of the newly United states, says, “In order to form a more perfect Union…” That’s not a perfect Union that would never be divided, but a more perfect Union, subject to change.

Lincoln’s view on successionism changed, as well. Before the Civil War, he wrote that the it was a Constitutional right that states could succeed, just as we had from Great Britain. But that all changed when the war broke out.

I still have a ton of study to do in this arena, and I’ve only touched the tip of the iceberg. But I do think there is a lot more to all of it than we have been taught, and I certainly don’t condemn all Southerners as slave owners who were fighting the Civil War in order to enslave human beings, like I used to. 🙂

What are your thoughts on it? What are some good books you have read on the subject?

Tagging some history people who might have some thoughts: @samantha-pen  @rochellaine  @seekjustice  @lrc  @valtmy  @the-inkspiller  @pursuewisdom  @northerner  @moonlighting-novelist  @scarletimmortalized

If you guys want to read the beginning of this conversation that has culminated in creating this thread, you can read it here. 🙂