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    @rebekah12 @skylarynn @lonathecat

    “I have no doubt that magic of a sort was used to bring us here, but power of this magnitude is beyond any on my world. Unless the nature of magic itself is different on your worlds – which it might very well be – I suspect it to be beyond any there as well. Though…” an inquisitive grin arose on Glenesh’s face, “I am open to be proven wrong.”

    “As for purpose,” Glenesh shrugged,” I believe we are the purpose, at least until such a time that our barren and dilapidated location offers evidence otherwise.”

    #136534
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    @olivia

    Hey, sorry for the long wait for the reply, life has been nuts for me lately.

    No kidding! He does have a lot of songs in his stories, but I sorta like it. If they’re too long then it gets sorta boring, but I like the uniqueness of it.

    Yep, it should also be noted (though it rarely is from what I have seen) that he also makes special note of food at times. Both food and song are such a large part of a culture that we are blind to it until we go into another culture see how they are different. And, as a man who loved language (that is also inextricably linked to culture), I think he loved song and poetry for both the linguistical aspects and how they informed the culture and world he loved building.

     

    Wow, that would be so weird to actually see the fires! I saw the place that is only about ten minutes out of town where the fire went through and burned just about everything, and it looks so barren. Everything is black, though the undergrowth is starting to come up slowly.

    Yeah, it isn’t uncommon to be driving along the freeway and see swathes of charred plant husks from the brush and wild fires. I do love how green it gets when it starts growing back (as long as the fire wasn’t too bad)

     

    Wow, you really are a guy of many genres, both in music and writing. xD Do you read as many different genres as you listen to? I guess I listen to some Christian pop, a bit of country, some folk/alternative, and worship music, for the most part. And I also love listening to soundtracks from movies with really awesome music while I do stuff. Have you ever heard of Hans Zimmer? He has some of my favourite music ever! And a bunch of other people too. xP

    Funny enough, I am not much of a reader. Reading takes energy for me to do, I think it is because I grew up with dyslexia so that part of my brain didn’t get as strong as some other people. Instead I tend to take in a lot of movies or shows, (as long as they are decent), and in that regard I will enjoy pretty much anything that isn’t horror.

    Oh, I forgot about country! I am not into much of the contemporary country, but I gew up listening to Cash, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Marty Robins etc… and today I tend to like ‘dark’ country, which is country with a bit of blues-y rock and bluegrass thrown in. Soundtracks can be amazing, if a bit up and down in tempo (since they are needed during all the emotional scenes of a movie). Hans Zimmer is great, but John Williams will always be my favorite XD You can also check out video game soundtracks, I would highly recommend any of the latest three elder scrolls games (skyrim, oblivion, or morrowind), as well as he original halo. Oh, and if you like epic trailer music for movies, check out Two Steps from Hell, they have some truly amazing stuff.

     

    Ya, I’m excited, even though I haven’t done much for it yet. I have a friend who’s been blogging for a few years now and I love her blog, so I’ll definitely get her to help me a lot. I agree. It would be better for me to take my time and have everything set up and ready to roll than rush myself and not know what I’m doing next. Haha

    I am glad you have a friend to help during the process. I would love to read the story btw, if you are interested in sharing!

    #136341
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    @rebekah12

    Hey, I wanted to hear Lona and Sky’s response before continuing, and then life just got crazy for me. I am still invested though 🙂

    #135791
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    @fitz

    @olivia

    Haha, ya, I guess that’s exactly what stories are too. xD So I suppose the only differences between songs and stories are that songs have music and are shorter.

    Pretty much, unless you are Tolkein, then half of your story is song anyway XD.

     

    xD That’s hilarious! We don’t get much rain in the summer, which makes so the forest gets really dry. There are often forest fires in the summer because of it, and last summer, my whole town and the ones surrounding it got evacuated because of one that was out of control for a while.

    Yeah, every few years California decides to spontaneously combust. Never had to evac myself, but I was right below the line that did, and I have seen the fires crawl across the mountains right next to us.

     

    So we’re opposite! I find it much harder public speaking than singing, or at least now that I’ve been singing in front of people for years. Though it’s always singing with other people, so I’m backed up. So it’s not quite the same as public speaking for me, since with public speaking, I don’t have backups.

    I have a really hard time projecting/hearing my own voice with a group, in top of being nervous, so singing with other other people is the worst of both worlds for me XD To be clear, if I am speaking like in a presentation, I can get nervous and my voice will speed up. But between my large family and being raised by a marine, general interactions with a crowd come naturally to me.

     

    Sometimes I change up songs a bit, but mostly just by sliding into the notes or adding little trills here and there. Nothing major. But I guess that’s my way of changing them, versus changing them a lot when I sing them. It’s cool that you do that though. I don’t listen to metal at all, though my brother listens to some, along with rock, so I hear it sometimes. But I generally like listening to Christian worship music, some pop, and a bunch of other types that I’m not sure what you’d call.

    It’s kinda fun to play with the sounds and style’s that way, you should try it XD I listen to a lot of different music, EDM, hip-hop/rap, metal (heavy, symphonic, power…), rock (classic, soft, hard, alternative…) classical, jazz, swing/big-band, oldies, folk/world (which includes sea shanties)… Honestly, the only kind of music I don’t like is anything that is too discordant (such as death metal or some of the harder dubstep) or that is simply too crass (which, unfortunately includes a lot of rap). If you give me an example of what song you listen to, I can <i>probably</i> tell you its genre, lol.

     

    It is indeed! I’ve definitely gotten better since I started writing a few years ago, so even though I don’t feel amazing or anything, it’s nice looking back and seeing the progress. I’m actually considering starting a blog soon. Or as soon as I sit down and take the time to set it up and everything. xP I’ve been really busy lately. I’m actually on the very last scene in my story! I have been for a while, since I haven’t taken much time for writing lately, but I’m hoping to finish it in the next week.

    Hey, that is super exciting! Congratulations! And it is ok to take your time, especially in this stage.

     

    I ended up ditching this story at the beginning because I was never really into it. And the last and current one I’m writing is a speculative fiction that I believe I already told you about. xD

    There have been a lot of projects I have dropped and haven’t finished, but they all still improved and developed my own skill along the way.

    #135721
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    @obrian-of-the-surface-world

    While I appreciate your concern, your energy here is misplaced. This is a forum for Christian writers to write about characters – characters that can encompass the entire scope of humanity. This is not a forum dedicated to Christian relationship advice, nor was such advice asked, do not turn this into something it isn’t.

    #135714
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    @irishcelticredflowercrown

    Thank you for writing this all out! It’s super helpful and I’m very happy with what you wrote, I don’t think it’s rambling at all. Your advice is amazingly good, thanks you so much, my intentions are much clearer now

    You are very welcome ^_^ I am glad you found it helpful.

     

    So it definitely isn’t temporary, it is a true love thing XD. I have planned this love story for far too long for it to just to be reduced to a temporary relationship lol

    haha, fair enough!

     

    Yeah that’s definitely true. At the beginning my character was definitely a more fully-fledged villain but I realised at some point that I couldn’t make him, like say, Kylo Ren from Star wars. I mean at the end of the day, Kylo Ren is a mass murderer and while he does redeem himself and get the girl (sort of), none of that changes what he did. Without revealing anything, my ‘villain’ is more of an anti-hero. He focuses on whether or not something will benefit him or his goals. And yeah I think at this point, those Dark Druids can’t be saved, because of how far they have gone to the dark side. So I will definitely keep that in mind. And I also think the ‘fruit of the poisonous tree’ has real potential. I already have a scene in mind hehe XD

    Kylo Ren is a good example of how not to write a redemption arc, lol. And I love it when I give people ideas XD

     

    That’s true, I’ll need focus on why it matters to my heroine. Sadly I don’t ask myself simple questions enough lol.

    You know, that’s ok. That is what this forum and the editing process are for. We are all human, with our own gifting’s and blind spots, and we all could support now and then ^_^ I am very glad my advice has been helpful.

    On that note, I did finish up the last bit of my critique on the previous page, if you are interested.

    #135712
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    @olivia

    Oh, by the way, I love your profile picture. My family and I just finished watching the Lord of the Rings, so it’s now on my mind more than usual. Memes are the best, so it’s a nice combination.

    haha, I’m glad you enjoy it! I was looking through the pictures on my computer to try and find one I liked and I saw this one and knew it was perfect XD

    #135711
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    @olivia

    It’s true. Songs are basically just compact stories, or at least sometimes. Other times they are a heart crying out their feelings to the world. That’s more often what my songs are.

    Isn’t that what stories are, just with a lot more context? XD

     

    Wow, I can’t even imagine not having snow! Well that’s not true. I can, but I don’t like the idea of it. Haha. My extended family is mostly in Ohio, so when we go there for Christmas it hardly ever snows as well and is rather depressing in my opinion. We have sleet a few times in the winter as well, but not usually so bad as to be a couple inches thick.

    It may sound weird, but I kinda get it. Sun for so long gets boring. I had a teacher in highschool who was originally from New York, and she couldn’t understand how excited and energized her students got when there was rain, lol.

     

    That’s way worse than singing, because you have to think of some way to greet everyone and it’s not super fun. xP But I’m used to that now as well, though I still don’t like it. But yes, it’s certainly made me grow in confidence over the years.

    That’s good! Honestly, I am much better at speaking in front of crowds than I am singing in front of even one person. I know how to project my voice when talking, but when trying to sing I get nervous and my throat gets all tight and it is hard to ‘go for it’ in the way that singing requires.

     

    It’s so true! Half of making a song go to it’s full potential is putting emotion in it. My teacher tells me that all the time, but it really is sometimes hard to “put” yourself into the song. It takes practice to be able to do it and do it well. Music is indeed a mystery, but that’s why it’s so amazing and beautiful.

    I often times find myself singing a song differently than the way it was originally arranged because the words don’t match the tempo/sound, or because I find my heart singing it more as a heart cry. I listen to a lot of metal, so I often turn songs more into a rock ballad than a true metal vocals (even if I can sorta sing them), lol. Do you even find yourself doing that? Just kinda letting loose and singing a song however you feel like?

     

    Thanks! It’s been hard to write because I’m not super great at writing, but it’s been satisfying getting the story written down.

    That is what practice and editing is for! How far along are you in the story?

     

    Haha, I think I got the gist. xD You really do write in all sorts of categories! I’ve basically written short stories, stories, poems, and songs. And only medieval fiction and speculative fiction for my stories.

    I would say I have tried many categories, I am far from prolific, however, lol.

    I started with poems, I like how they are songs that can be as long or short as you want (and you don’t have to sing XD). So what were your short stories/fiction about?

    #135544
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    @olivia

    Writing music is still very much a form of writing. The stories that songs tell are much more compact than books, but that does not make them less valid by any means.

     

    “In the winter here in Northwestern Ontario where I live, we skate and play hockey all the time. My brother and I usually play hockey with our friends at the outdoor rink a couple times a week, sometimes more. It’s so much fun! Those are some of my favourite times in the winter and even somewhat in the entire year. When I skate it makes me feel like I’m flying.  I love it so much. The funny part is that I’ve only ever been to a couple hockey games, mostly because I’d rather play hockey than watch it. But the ones I’ve been to were pretty fun, though I did get a little restless watching for hours. (Most because when I’d see the players, I’d just want to jump up and join them. xD Haha, though I’m definitely not good enough to play with them.)”

    lol, see, I am from sunny southern California, in my 30 years of existence here it has snowed once where I live. And I mean “snow” in ONLY the most technical of terms, but I do know what it feels like to have a snowflake fall on me, lol. On the other hand, we have had sleet that covers everything in inches so there is that. While there are ice skating rinks here, it really doesn’t seem like the same thing.

     

    “I love singing, but I don’t prefer to sing in front of my family when everyone’s around, so I mostly sing quietly and hum when I’m with people. Lol, but the funny thing is that I lead worship at church once a month and I’m the lead singer and I don’t mind it. I think it’s because I’m not singing alone, since the whole congregation is singing with me.”

    I love singing too, but I am definitely more of the ‘for fun’ or ‘in the shower’ kinda guy XD But hey, singing for the whole congregation has got to be a confidence boost!

     

    “Ya, I can get that. Music really does take a lot of time and dedication. I just finished my… *thinks for a bit* either sixth or seventh year of piano, I think. I’m not sure how many years I took piano when I was younger, but I think it’s about that in total. But yes, it’s a lot of work!”

    Yup. It is amazing though, how even on a piano, you can hear someone who plays with their heart or not. There is a certain magic in music that I have long pondered, but perhaps some of that magic is its mystery.

     

    “… following the story of eleven-year-old Justin, who was separated from his twin sister at birth and then works to find her when he’s older and finds out about his past. It’s basically the story of how they meet and become fast friends over a summer together when they hang out just about constantly. It’s a story of friendship, love, and sacrifice.”

    daw, that sounds lovely!

    As for writing interests for me… You can pretty much name it and I have probably applied myself too it at some point or another. In the OP I listed “fantasy, poetry, song lyrics, movie reviews, political commentary; tabletop RPG systems, adventures, [and] conversions;”, and just recently (in the giant wall’s of text you can’t miss, lol), I have been critiquing someone else’s work, which is not really something I have done before. I love the discovering how and why things work; I love being able to tell that discover to others or hear it from them. Sometimes that process takes me to genre’s of writing – or even things far away from writing – that I never would have otherwise had an interest in. And once my heart is done playing/discovering that thing, I typically move on. I guess my interest is in writing itself, though fantasy, and my WIP in particular, tend to capture my interest more than most. I hope all that makes sense XD

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by Fitz. Reason: all the smile faces in my posts are huge and I have no idea why
    #135527
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    @irishcelticredflowercrown

    “However I don’t want to be put in a situation where the readers have long figured who he actually is or when it is revealed, it doesn’t have an effect on them at all. I guess what I’m asking is can something like this work? I know that there is secrecy and dishonesty between them, which would be a problem for the actual love story. How far is too far? Any thoughts?

    I’m writing it because it’s part of this character’s journey to find true redemption: it challenges him, leads him to question the beliefs and allegiances he’s held for most of his life. Because it causes him to change for the better, he becomes more virtuous and noble.”

    So, to answer your question more directly, yes, it can work. Romances are difficult to write but oh so rewarding when done well, and a worthwhile challenge to undertake. I have a lot of thoughts and they are connected somewhere between loosely and strongly, so bear with me if this gets a bit ramble-y XD Also forgive me if some of what I say is redundant because you are already aware of it… also because this is another long post of mine, lol, I really don’t do things halfway…

    Romances are fantastic, and they speak most clearly of the unfallen world we were all intended to be a part of. Where many romances fall short is the depiction of our true human ugliness and mess, and that is before combining arcs (such as romance and redemption). The more I think about it, the more I feel that all romances, fictionalized or real, are all also tragedies and redemption arcs. Because it is in the nature of romance to bring to light our greatest flaws, and where there is the greatest hope there is the greatest struggles. In or efforts to love or be loved our most fundamental brokenness is exposed and gives us the choice to either succumb to that pain or heal from it. In this way, true Love has much more to do with choice than attraction, and every good love story is a battle – always internal and sometimes external – to achieve that prize that comes from the union of two that are greater than the two separate. I guess one of my points here is to remember that this romance (no matter how it goes) will first and foremost be a redemption arc for her first; if the struggle is one-sided, then so is the character growth, and she is your main character (we will get into more of this later).

    The first question that comes to my mind is whether or not you want this romance to be true love or not. It sounds like his attraction to her is earnest and not a deception, but we will all experience many attractions throughout our lives while very few of them qualify for a lasting relationship. Even if it isn’t meant to be lead into a permanent relationship, there is still a lot of (mostly untapped) room for character growth in a romance that isn’t true love. I will get more into that later, but one benefit that a story of temporary romance can bring is a sense of raw realism, since we have all been there before and growing from that experience alone is worthwhile.

    Next (and this isn’t meant to be patronizing), there is a pretty big difference between attraction and chemistry. Initial attraction is an easy thing, but true chemistry comes from the nature of our characters. Many books and big budget movies fall into this trap where because the pretty main characters are in proximity of one another they must fall in love, without ever giving a thought as to why they would in the first place. People often have chemistry with those that are complimentary with one another in ways that are both similar and challenging. In my own life, I have found that those I have had the most chemistry with are not only those who “click” with me, but also hold traits that I admire that I might not have myself and who challenge me in some way. If you first create two characters who are yin/yang in that way, then a romance between them will happen naturally.

    One very important consideration with a redemption arc of this nature is to be very honest about how bad are the bad guys. The more evil they are, the less likely their redemption will be, the harder they will need to struggle, and the more difficult it will be to write. I am not sure if the romantic interest is one of the dark druids, but if he is, I would have a very hard time believing a fully fledged member trying to bring back literal Satan would have a change of heart outside of miraculous intervention. There are also serious practical limitations regarding someone in that state of emotional, mental, and spiritual health that can’t be ignored, even if they are making honest efforts to heal. If he is new, and the degree of ignorance is high for initiates, this can give some wiggle room. This does, however, bring up another point regarding the use of powers in this world. The difference between the two magic systems, as you have described, seems pretty black and white. If he is trying to help her then he will use the tool he has at his disposal, if that tool is evil he runs into a ‘fruit of the poisonous tree’ problem where the use of evil, even in an attempt for good, will come at a cost. Costs of this nature will always infect and corrupt his good intentions until he is willing to give them up: to choose honest powerlessness over self-deceptive belief in his own empowerment. Those moments of course make fantastic scenes of real redemption; I just want to be honest about the pitfalls I see in the undertaking. But the greater the challenge the greater the reward.

    Another thought that comes to mind is something that is so often overlooked in romantic redemption arcs, yet we see it fairly commonly in Christian circles: changing for someone else. The need for acceptance and love within humans is a terrible and strong force, and we are willing to go to extraordinary lengths to get it. It is all too common for someone to try and change themselves for someone else; especially when what is on the line is romantic love. This need is a double-edged sword as it can be the catalyst for change, but any change we make for someone else and not ourselves is temporary at best. This means, practically speaking for your character, that there is going to have to be some point where he is going to have to make that decision for himself: that he wants to be a better man because he wants it, not because she will love him if he does. This sorting of different emotions and desires is predictably and wonderfully messy. If the relationship isn’t meant to be permanent, then this moment can be both more dramatic and clear: if he is never going to be with her, does he still want to change? If the relationship is supposed to be permanent, this moment still needs to happen, but sorting it out will be more nuanced and will still probably come after a fight and at the risk of losing the relationship. Further, even if he solidly decides to change for himself at the start, interconnection with someone else on a romantic level will still add some human mess to that equation, even if they are overall a very positive reinforcement.

    But like I said earlier, she is your main character, not him, and her character arc is the most important one of the story. So what does this all mean for her? Simply to have her character flaws manifest during some of the stages of the unfolding story. When she initially meets this (masked?) man, does she resent his assistance past the point of worthy suspicion? Or does she trust him way to fast, through either naivety or budding attraction to his mysterious nature? Once his old (or current) allegiances come to light, does she turn on him with a hatred and vengeance that surpasses his actual betrayal? Does she isolate herself from others, either unwilling to trust anyone anymore or from his betrayal triggering an older and deeper wound she has yet to confront? How long does it take her to trust that his intentions are sincere, and what does it take to convince her? How is trust rebuilt? Does the question of him changing for her enter her mind, and if so, does that play into fantasy of hers or does she realize he needs to change for himself? If the relationship is temporary, do they manage to rebuild a friendship along the way or leave with hurt feelings remaining even if they are no longer enemies? These are all just a bunch of ideas to play with, and seeing what you (or other creators) do with them are the parts of stories that get me the most excited.

    As for the mechanics, such as the plot twist element, I would honestly worry about it too much. The actual surprise/shock value is the easiest to rewrite or modify in the editing phase, and the least important aspect of it. The two big pointers regarding it is A) Do not lie to the reader: it is easy to get a surprise out of the audience if you pull the rug out from under them, but those surprises are cheap and break any expectation of honesty between you and them. It is ok to mislead the audience, so long as you are misleading them with either truth or the lack of a complete picture. B) Keep everything else around the plot twist authentic: the true impact of a plot twist doesn’t come with the surprise, but the impact on the story and the characters therein. I have enjoyed plot twists that were spoiled because they were so important to the story, and important plot twists are enjoyable even rereads.

    Anyway, I know that was a lot, but those are my thoughts and I hope it at least inspires you with further ideas 🙂

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    posted this in the wrong place and don’t know how to delete XD

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    #135521
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    @fitz

    @rebekah12

    Thank you 🙂

    #135520
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    @fitz

    @obrian-of-the-surface-world

    Thanks. And yeah, I’ve been doing that too.

    #135517
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    @skylarynn @lonathecat @rebekah12

    Hey all, I am wondering if my posts are going through/you can see them. The site has been going crazy the last little while and I don’t know what works and what doesn’t.

    #135516
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    Testing to see if I can post anything…

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