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Rose replied to the topic Talk room in the forum Fantasy Writers 4 years, 11 months ago
Oh that’s really cool! Yeah I think it’s better to get to know the characters first before making any relationship decisions. If you don’t mind, I’d really love to know more about your two characters
Hmm, they’re both sarcastic idiots. There! Summarized the entire book! XD
The one character is Liorah. (Everyone here knows Liorah, right? Joelle knows her from the Character castle and the rest of y’all saw her in the character description game.) The other one I will refer to as Aydin, a stand-in name that I have since changed, but I’ll refer to him like that so I don’t spoil anything.
Anyway, Aydin has a… complicated backstory and through many plot devices and complicated situations, he got on Liorah’s wrong side. (Yes, that was his fault and he was kinda acting like an idiot, and she had every right to be furious at him.)
So, through many more unfortunate situations, they ended up having to work together on something. (They both hated that and the number of sarcastic insults that were exchanged can barely be counted.)
In the original outline, they were supposed to be a couple, (I honestly don’t know if I should laugh or cringe when I remember my original outline) but about halfway through the draft she just went like “Him? Are you kidding me?” so I changed that.
I mean, even when they’re thinking of each other they’re always mildly disdainful XD
So they’re slowly, slowly becoming friends, and I think they’ll gradually get a sibling-like relationship. Even when they don’t actively hate each other, their personalities clash and they annoy each other unintentionally.
Anyway, really fun character dynamic that offers plenty of opportunities for amusing situations. Perfect 🙂
Yeah I agree, it’s just badly done if there is no logical healthy transition. I plan on making my couples enemies then allies then friends and THEN lovers. But the guy loves her the whole time, he just doesn’t want to admit it XD. And internal conflict is so great, you can’t do a good story without it. Tension is important!!
Ooh, that’s cool! I actually like it when one of the two falls in love earlier. It makes for some interesting conflict.
I also hate it when characters never recognise that they did bad things and the author justifies their actions instead. That’s what they did with Once Upon a Time. Almost all of the villains did awful things that were justified because of their motivations or tragic backstories. Its so very annoying :/ I just have this huge desire to make my male anti-hero really tearful and full of regret, especially towards his girl, after he realises what terrible things he did.
It definitely is annoying! I mean, on one hand, there’s ‘They have big issues and past trauma that led up to this, and they have a crooked worldview that leads to their actions, but what they’re doing is very wrong. Even though I understand why it doesn’t excuse it.’ but too often it just turns into “Ya, okay, they were very evil, but look, they had motivation, so it’s cool, right? Right?” LOL
Yeah I think I might have half solved it, I just can’t bring myself to write when I have a glaring dilemma with my narrative, even though I know that generally I figure things out best when I’m actually writing. It’s just so hard sometimes because I’m a perfectionist
Perfectionism can be a pain sometimes, and I totally get what you mean! All I can say is, you got this, you’ll work it out, and often plot holes are blessings in disguise 😉 Once, I got stuck in a plot hole but it ended up leading to an entire subplot and a backstory for one of my characters. Weird when that happens XD You’ll definitely work it out!
Just want to say, I also really dislike the ‘Love at first sight’ trope! Too often, it’s a trick to avoid actually developing a relationship. Honestly, those characters seldom get more than an eye-roll before I forget about them XD












