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@everyone

Sorry I have been gone for so long! Finally back now… XD

@pensword

Wow, cool! I will have to check that book out. Sounds really neat.

@lrc

(Love your short tag, btw. Lol!)

Ah, I get the “want-to-get-involved-in-every-topic-like-crazy-but-don’t-have-time” thing! Thanks for saying hi, though. 🙂 And I love that line that @his-bard said, as well. So true!!

@edmund-lloyd-fletcher

I agree with you, as least mostly. XD  There is definitely typically both a reason and a pretense for any given war in history, but I also think they can be almost the same things at the root. I also believe that most wars (esp a lot farther back in history) have a lot more complex reasons + causes, etc. Not nearly so cut-and-dried as a lot of our more modern wars.

Your thought on Hawaii was interesting…I mean, the same thing happened in Haiti with the French rule, and Cuba with the Spanish, etc, etc, etc… it goes on forever! Throwing off an oppressive rule, or just a rule they did not like, though that was more rare. I mean, the Revolutionary War and independence of America as a country was really the exact same thing. Thus, the Confederate states really wanted to do the same thing that its mother country had done a hundred years before…in fact, many of them reasoned that way. Interesting thoughts, and not the way that it seems like we really think about the Civil War nowadays. 🙂

Either way, there is a lot of positives and negatives on both sides, if you ask me.

@rochellaine

Hey! Thanks for joining the discussion…and thanks for clearing that up. XD
I totally agree with you. I have read a lot about William Wilberforce, and things he’s written, and agree about the whole peer-pressure thing in that time. It’s kinda amazing how much that influenced the world, when Britain passed the slave ban. (Side note: Have you seen the movie, Amazing Grace? I love that movie!)

YES! From what I have studied, and been studying more recently, I have seen the same things you mentioned. The only place I might differ would be in regard to Lincoln. I believe his motives were pure, and he went to war because he believed it would be the best thing for the nation (not saying I agree or disagree). He had a really, really job, being president during that time. I think that at first slavery might not have been the issue, but that is not necessarily true about later on + after the war.

The Emancipation Proclamation certainly was pretty useless, and not the nice free-all-the-slaves document we are taught that it is. 🙂

@his-bard

Very true about the firearms! Kinda crazy. The Union seemed like it was always quite aware of the fact that they had better firearms than they did, and that that contributed to their scout’s and sniper’s success rates a lot, as compared to theirs.

@seekjustice

Sorry! I keep forgetting, and I know you’ve read a lot of history and like these kinds of discussion. Oops. XD