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  • Sarah Inkdragon replied to the topic Myers Briggs Debate!!! in the forum General Writing Discussions 7 years, 3 months ago

    *reads debate*

    Okay, I’m interested by now, so if y’all don’t mind, I’m going to add my thoughts to it, as a person that’s pretttttty darn sure they’re an INTJ and just because…. well, yeah, I like adding my opinion. (Sorry if it’s not wanted, but psychology is something that’s always deeply interested me and the more I think about it and write about the more interesting it becomes. XD)

    So we’re pretty much talking feelings vs. logic, yes? And the supposed value of either side in dominance over the other?

    First off, I’m going to address the logic side, since that’s the one I mostly identify with as an INTJ and just as person who thinks in a pretty logical process(in my opinion, anyhow). Logic has been viewed as “above” emotions and feelings for centuries by most of the world, save maybe the poets and dreamers. Even today, it’s still generally considered better to be smart than it is to be an emotional person–but vice versa, emotions and their positive affects have been lifted up for many years, especially in the media. Things like bravery, courage, hope–these are things that logically sometimes do not make sense(For example, why would someone risk his own life for a country when there are plenty of others who will? Yet they still do.), yet they’re still very important both on a social and human level. People who are these things are respected and revered because they are generally good people. (Not that they all are.) As humans, we all have that want in us, that hope, to do something great for the world to remember us by.

    Not that logic is wrong either. Logic(aka smarts, intelligence, sensibility) is something that is sorely lacking in our world today in many terms. Not necessarily because there are to many feelers, or too little thinkers, but because we use it wrong or ignore it. Today’s world is incredibly narcissistic and selfish, and because feelings can usually be explained to be “reasonable” easier than an obviously stupid decision can, people use them to their advantage. Take the sudden outbreak of people with mental illnesses in the past few years. Not that there aren’t people who actually have mental illnesses, but such things as depression, anxiety, etc. have been popularized and romanticized until people literally think it’s “normal” or “cool” to have one. These illnesses are something that are usually based on feelings, because like paranoia, there are some things logic cannot explain. People manipulate others with supposed illnesses to make themselves look more victimized and sympathetic and to get the attention they crave because it’s easier to do than to actually be a person worth looking up to–a brave, honest, courageous person who has feelings but does not let every whim dictate their actions.

    So can logic or feelings ever take precedent over the other? Logically, no. Emotionally, no. A true mature person has a mixture of logic and feeling that let them be a compassionate, but sensible person. It’s not that people are one or the other–I know thinkers that are also very emotional and feelers that can think extremely analytically. Sure, maybe some people grow up or form their personality to be more focused on one side–but some of the greatest missionaries were the most emotional and compassionate ones. Yet did you ever see them making an illogical decision? No.

    As for the rarity of the female INTJ–Personally, I’ve seen a lot of them in the writing community and I think it’s because many of them love the mental challenge of creating interesting, unique, and lovable characters. Just like I do. There’s nothing I love more than analyzing a story or culture or language, or trying to guess the plot twist before it’s revealed. (Or if I don’t, re-reading it and looking for the clues.) So I think it’s rather reasonable that there are so many of them in the writing community. Sure, not all of them are technically true, but for the majority of people it’s probably not far off.

    One last thing before I go–just because someone is a thinker or a feeler doesn’t mean they can’t use logic or emotion if it’s their opposite type. I’m for sure an INTJ or INTP(Most likely an INTJ however, as the majority of tests and research I’ve done points towards that.), but I am also a person who will cry their eyes out during a sad movie or get so incredibly angry that I have to go be away from everyone for a while or I might do something I regret. Sure, I’m generally a pretty blunt and straightforward person(I can’t stand guessing games or surprises, so I try to get rid of them quickly.), but that doesn’t mean I can’t be sad or so down that I need someone to help me. Even my father, who adamantly believes that most emotions are pretty useless and selfish for the majority of people(which isn’t false….), is an emotional person. But he’s still a logical person. (He’s also an INTX, but most likely an INTJ)

    So in short–I don’t think you can put one half above the other, because they’re not halves. They’re components–in my opinion, and personality type only measures how much more of one you base yourself off, not the actual absence of either. It’s not possible for a person to be completely logical or completely emotional, no matter what they say or act like, because most of the time the way someone acts like and views them self as are only surface deep, and the actual personality is buried under a want to appear “normal” or “abnormal”, depending on the person.

    Hope I’m not making anyone angry… but like I said, this is something I’ve thought about a lot and I couldn’t help but say something, as an INTJ and as a person who just really likes psychology. 😉

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