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@r-m-archer

I don’t think that’s necessarily the case so long as rule #1 is followed and the benefits are temporary and far outweighed by the consequences.

It’s a real dangerous thing to mess with and it can portray you (the author) as someone who is okay with magic to readers who are confused. It’s a very slippery slope.

Riordan’s and Sanderson’s books I think would both fall into the grey area

Yeah, just to come out and say it, I don’t agree. xD Riordan is clearly messing with the supernatural and greek gods, it doesn’t get much clealy supernatural than that, well, Harry Potter is still worse I guess. As I talked about to Taylor, the fantastical abilities and systems in the world are not magic as far as I can tell (though Taylor is right, for me to speak on this better I would have to read the book first), but there are supernatural realms, false gods, and false religions all utilized in the book and have to do effect the plot and characters. It’s just that bible teaches we shouldn’t mess around with the supernatural realm, and Sanderson clearly is.

@taylorclogston

True, true. 🙂 But what I research this on far more than wiki. I read reviews, searched through the book, read a little of the book itself, and read descriptions of the all the fantastical elements, and read up on all the religion/god/supernatural stuff, so though you are right that I would be able to argue my point better if I have read it, I think I know enough to say that is is clearly messing with the supernatural realms, and probably heavily influenced by Mormonism as you said.