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September 14, 2021 at 12:31 pm #142141
Shannon Caeley
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Ok I think I got everyone.
Hello.
It has been very enjoyable to watch the debating/agreeing/disagreeing/arguing over the past few days. When LRC and I came up with this idea, we knew we wanted to spark a conversation, and it seems that we definitely have! Thank you all for weighing in with your opinions. Due to the large amount of information here, we aren’t going to reply in detail to everyone, but I think the general consensus is, as @Taylorclogston puts it, everyone has their own style.
So again, thank you all for your insights, and thank you also for not throwing too many tomatoes. I shall now exit. Tata.
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
September 1, 2021 at 2:08 pm #137344Shannon Caeley
@shannonI give this post my coauthor-ship stamp of approval. 😉
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
May 4, 2020 at 11:29 pm #111417Shannon Caeley
@shannonHey @beth20, I would agree with what everyone else has said so far. Although mild romance threads and are fine in middle grade, swearing of any kind automatically rules it out for that specific target audience. Like Coralie said, I think you are looking at works targeted towards the YA audience at this point.
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
March 27, 2020 at 10:28 am #109475Shannon Caeley
@shannonWe’ve got an interesting age gap going on here haha. I’m seeing a lot of 16s and a lot of early 20s. Anyway I’m 18, and @jessi-rae, I think I have had the same problem of not including enough conflict in my stories also lol. Your WIP sounds really awesome! Is it going to include realistic HF elements or are you going to try to avoid historical references?
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
February 7, 2020 at 11:25 pm #105593Shannon Caeley
@shannon"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
February 7, 2020 at 7:52 pm #105584Shannon Caeley
@shannon@sarah-inkdragon Wow that’s a really cool idea! That would open up a ton of great themes! Hope you get to write it sometime 🙂
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
February 7, 2020 at 7:50 pm #105583Shannon Caeley
@shannon@abigail-rebekah Thank you! *bows*
I’m really excited about this story tbh…it just has so many opportunities for solid themes!
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
February 7, 2020 at 11:11 am #105551Shannon Caeley
@shannon@seekjustice Eyyy wwi writing buddies? I’m in ;).
Here’s the basic storyline:
Twins, Helena and Laurence have never been separated, but Laurence illegally enlists, along side his fiery friend Russell, and dies in the Battle of Belleau Wood. The theme is strength. Laurence has never been a fighter, he’s a writer who loves the beauty around him and hates wholeheartedly the idea of war. But he finds his strength that his friends say he does not have, in God, and decides to go and die for his brothers. Russell finds his strength in himself, in his surety and passion for life. He comes back from WWI scarred in more ways than one, scared to try to live after realizing life isn’t the grand adventure he thought it would be. Helena feels that all the strength she must have is being sucked out of her. She is the light and her wick is slowly being eaten up because she has no heavenly source to sustain it. When Laurence dies her candle is snuffed out and she finds herself continually wondering how Laurence could give his life for a German, how he could have had the strength to surrender to Gods will.
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
February 7, 2020 at 11:09 am #105550Shannon Caeley
@shannon@abigail-rebekah Yeah right now I have the kids struggling with personal convictions as to whether or not the war is right, also struggling with whether or not they should enlist even though they are underage. Those are all really good points, thanks so much!
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
December 29, 2019 at 9:49 am #103278Shannon Caeley
@shannonHey @phoenix! What’s your current wip about?
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
December 27, 2019 at 9:37 am #103228Shannon Caeley
@shannonWelp…I typed out a long reply, then I’m assuming the forum ate it. So I will now try to restate everything lol. This should be interesting.
Hey @the-fledgling-artist! Great question. For starters, I think it’s important to realize that because we all think differently and have strengths and weaknesses in different areas, the styles of outlining that people use will be wildly different. I’m assuming you’ve already figured this out, but just in case haha.
For me personally, I haven’t yet discovered the style of outlining that works best for me. My current wip does not have an outline, but the only reason I feel comfortable doing it is because I have a strong link with my characters. However, I know that after I’m done with this first draft, I’ll need to rework it for theme purposes. Now, I’m ok with that. I find it much better if I let the scenes work themselves in as they come, but like I said, only because I know what I want from my characters. My plan is to outline my entire story from start to finish when I’m done with this first draft, and then restructure and rework from a theme perspective.
Now, this might work for you if you think like I do, slightly unorganized, but so many ideas that you probably forget more than you could put on paper in a decade. It helps me to let those ideas direct the story. But like I said, I’m setting myself up for a lot of structural/theme work later on. If I were you (and this is probably going to sound strange haha) I would write a few short stories, and try different methods of outlining on each. Kinda an experiment to see what works best for you.
Anyway, hope this was helpful!!
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
December 24, 2019 at 10:46 am #103137Shannon Caeley
@shannon@ncstokes Yeah Silvia is four poor child. I find her extremely relatable. It seems I’m constantly bumping into walls, dumping eggs off of plates, and overturning glass cups XD
(Also glad you remember me 😉 )
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
December 22, 2019 at 4:25 pm #103082Shannon Caeley
@shannon@seekjustice Yeah like I said, mirror-touch is interesting. Like I like it, but I hate it. It gives me chills when I can feel someone by just watching them…so weird.
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
December 21, 2019 at 2:38 pm #103043Shannon Caeley
@shannonOoh, this is fun!
The Flavius Kids:
Peregrine: Not speaking up when he saw that crook steal a piece of jewelry, thereby making himself an accomplice of the crime.
Aquila: Hitting the police officer who arrested Peregrine…she’s not violent, just protective.
Orson: Not returning a library book in time? I don’t know he’s a good kid.
Silvia: Breaking something valuable…it doesn’t matter what, she’s good at breaking things poor child.
(Also hi @ncstokes! let’s see if you remember me XD )
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
December 20, 2019 at 11:49 pm #103027Shannon Caeley
@shannonYeah, I can’t tell the difference between notes either @seekjustice. Maybe I could if each seperate note had a color, but they don’t for me unfortunately. My little brother Daniel has perfect pitch and can tell you exactly what note you are playing just by hearing it…and I am honestly a tad bit jealous. It is such a super power in the music world. But his isn’t connected to synesthesia, so he looks at me like I’m a nut whenever I mention it lol.
"Let us run with endurance the race that is before us." Hebrews 12:1
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