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July 6, 2020 at 6:40 pm #115842
@rebekah-elizabeth I agree with a lot of @taylorclogston’s feedback. Not sure if you’re looking at traditional publishing or re-trying self-publishing right now, but if the latter, I’d definitely invest in a professional cover (as it sounds like you’re already considering) and also work on building your personal platform so you’re able to reach a larger audience. While hoping that people come to your page via keywords can work at times, it often works more effectively when it’s a part of a larger strategy (focused on your personal platform) than just by itself. Do you have much of a personal platform yet?July 6, 2020 at 6:33 pm #115841
I’ve always found that just sitting down and making a schedule does wonders for my writing life. Intentional planning takes you further than an unintentional “I’ll write if I find time for it” mindset.June 8, 2020 at 2:25 pm #114505
Hey @eitan @katja-r@luciusbraun! Is this problem still occurring for you all? I think we may have fixed it with a software update (so it works on my end when I test it), but I wanted to see if that was the case for you as well or not.May 27, 2020 at 11:59 am #113875
Other people have already given great tips of figuring out the why behind this and exploring their backstory more. One tip I would give for the actual writing process, though, is to start the story out with scenes that paint the viewpoint character in a positive light. If you’re starting out with them being a jerk to everyone, neither you nor the reader will easily bond with them. Showcase their positive sides first with hints toward their darker side, and then you’ll be able to show readers more of their full anger and bitterness once they’ve already begun to care about the character.May 18, 2020 at 8:54 am #112736May 14, 2020 at 8:51 am #112456
Fascinating thoughts! I really enjoyed reading through all of these different perspectives this morning and considering your take on the book.
My take on the ending of the book has shifted somewhat. The first time I read the book, I found myself disappointed by the actual climax (where they’re all talking in the sideroom) since it felt rather pointless. It was important for the father’s character arc to make his decision, but nothing changed for Jesse and Matt. Both still made the same decisions and there was no reversal of any kind. So it made for a tense scene that really didn’t lend much to the novel and (in my opinion) detracted from Matt’s decision. After reading it again this year for this series and book study, though, my earlier concern didn’t bother me as much because of what the scene represented for Matt’s father (who I agree is rather villainous in a Neville Chamberlain way), and I understood more of why the scene worked as it did. It probably helped that suspense isn’t as relevant to a re-read, but I saw a different side of the ending than I had before.
Regarding the presence of Providence… for me this is most clearly seen in the conversion and transformation of Earl, because I’d also argue this is what gives the book its thematic resolution. If the story is about Matt’s desire to rescue Jesse from a bad marriage, in the middle of the story we’re given the solution to the problem: Earl is no longer who he was as a kid, and so as a result she won’t be in a bad marriage (though it won’t necessarily be an easy one). A lot of the latter half of the story is thus Matt learning to accept the fact that God has already saved Jesse (not him) and that he needs to recognize the work that God has done in Earl’s life and stop trying to bring his own solution to the problem.
I agree that Jesse was treated like an object for a lot of the book. I’d also argue that this was somewhat the point: all of the characters are treating her as an object for their lust, misguided salvation, quest for money, etc. instead of as an actual human being, and Matt needs to learn to respect her desires more and stop treating her as a means to his own heroic story.
The comments about Daisy’s death being foreshadowed are interesting. I certainly felt the same way when reading through the book and while I didn’t mind the fact that she didn’t die (since I was mostly just thankful that she didn’t!), I can definitely understand why this would feel disappointing to other readers. One of the things that Fabry mentioned in the interview we did with him that we’ll be releasing at the end of our blog series on the book is that he actually did significantly change the ending from the first draft. We didn’t probe into specifics about what that looked like, but I do wonder if this was part of the original ending of the story.
Anyways, don’t expect my thoughts to change anyone’s overall views of the book since in my experience that rarely happens. xD But it was great to hear everyone else’s opinions, especially on bringing up a couple things I hadn’t noticed before, and I’ll be interested to hear your further thoughts when we begin publishing the article series about the book later next week!May 11, 2020 at 5:26 pm #112225May 4, 2020 at 3:39 pm #111369
One of the things that I really appreciate about the way that The Promise of Jesse Woods handles theological agreements is the way they feel directed at the characters as opposed to the reader. The arguments the characters used aren’t always the most theological arguments or the most powerful arguments out there. But they’re the type of arguments the characters would make–often drawn from their personal experience, expressed in their own style, and relevant to the situation at hand. The discussion between 1970s Matt & Jesse on the hill following the campfire springs to my mind as one good case study of this. The fact that the theology is directly related to the major themes of the story helps as well!April 3, 2020 at 3:32 pm #109817
@daeus-lamb @taylorclogston @edmund-lloyd-fletcher I’m not sure if I can’t adjust the anti-spam filters. I will certainly seek to do so if I can, but it’s probably tied to the forum software we use and adjusting that spam filter could be tricky. I’ll try to look at this more after the summit later this month, but at the moment, my best recommendation is to just tag myself or Daeus if the spam filter eats up your post so we can retrieve it!March 25, 2020 at 9:36 pm #109422
@daeus-lamb Sorry for missing this earlier! Honestly, my favorite one in this discussion is the first revision you did from the initial draft from your blurb artist at the top of page 3. I may add a line about the other two allies to the wizard paragraph. But I personally felt like that one was the most specific and grabbing (though I do like the “turn men into monsters” line and also the “he was a thousand too late.” This is probably a too many cooks in the kitchen situation. 😛 But that’s my two cents!March 19, 2020 at 11:22 am #109104March 7, 2020 at 11:51 pm #108336February 13, 2020 at 12:37 am #106081
Wordfence is a software we use to help protect the site from attackers or spammers. I haven’t heard about forum users getting this error before, and am not entirely sure why this is popping up. Were there any links you were including in the post? And if you try posting a different reply to that thread, will this still pop up?January 23, 2020 at 12:02 am #104246
Hey all! Sorry about the site spottiness that we’ve been having this week! We were working behind the scenes on fixing some different hidden bugs that were causing the site to take up a lot more server space than it should, and the process of troubleshooting different issues have apparently had some unintentional side effects that occasionally cause half our pages to break. >.>
We are working on resolving these issues ASAP so the site runs as smoothly (if not better once our improvements are done) than it normally does. But I did want to let you know that we are aware of this problem, and apologize in advance if it happens again as we finish ironing out all the kinks in the current system. Thanks for your speediness in reporting this issue here!January 22, 2020 at 11:59 pm #104245
@naiya-dyani Yeah–we’ve been trying to improve various site speed issues behind-the-scenes this week and it’s apparently had some glitchy side-effects. 😛 We’re working on fixing it and hope to resolve these issues soon!