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Ooh, is it the story you shared in the Flabbit Room? The one where I thought the one kid died? And he was adopted, and they had the cool axes, and all that really random stuff I remember? XD
Yes! That one!
Sorry guys I haven’t been active. Our family’s moving, so…yeah. But not that I’m here, we’ll have to keep this out of the archives. Page 3 is not acceptable
*sheepishly hangs head* Ooh… page three? Was it really that bad? *coughs*
Welcome back, Crazywriter! 😀
Guys we gotta keep this alive. Anybody there?
@joelle-stone @mischevious-thwaplingI’m here *echoes* here… here…
What would you like to discuss? I won’t be here until Saturday, so… sry if I respond late. 🙂
Hey, welcome, and of course you can join!
Hi, y’all! Is it alright if I join?
Since this is just for general talk, how about everyone names three of their favorite tropes?
For me, desert settings, animal sidekicks, and sarcastic narrators.
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
That’s a good idea 🙂 Mine are comedic best friends, villain turned love interest and high-tech futuristic settings.
*bowls you over with hug* Of course you can join! Welcome!
Ooh, good idea.*considers* I gotta say I love the serious, warrior-type sad guys in books and movies. They’re quiet (which is so not me), calm (not me either), and generally have a backstory that makes your heart ache (also not me).
Secondly… hrm. I really like saving the world. XD That sounds so bad, but seriously, if an author can put saving the world into the stakes without making it cliché, it’s AWESOME.
And of course I like the sarcastic person who hides behind their jokes but is secretly very protective. I have no idea if that’s a trope or not, but those kind of peeps are awesome. 🙂
Mine are comedic best friends, villain turned love interest and high-tech futuristic settings.
Oooh, YES! Enemies to lovers can be awesome if executed well, and redemption arcs are always great! And the sharing-a-brain-cell type friends are spectacular. I love sci-fi in general!
Hi Joelle! How’s Riure?! I miss her so much already! 😭XD
Those are all awesome! And that very specific type of sarcastic character is amazing and totally a trope!
Anyway, y’all, how’s your writing been in general? Writer’s block or too many words, not enough time? Characters cooperating? All well in fantasy-wherever?
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
Oooh, YES! Enemies to lovers can be awesome if executed well, and redemption arcs are always great! And the sharing-a-brain-cell type friends are spectacular. I love sci-fi in general!
You think like me girl😭 I love enemies to lovers SO much and I hate that almost every book I have read with that trope is basically borderline abusive or a smut-fest🥴 I really want to do it right with my WIP, I’m planning on doing a series where this relationship is developed appropriately. But yeah you’re right, it is a very complicated subject, gosh I need to make sure I do it right😬 My villainous guy isn’t a psychopath, he’s more an anti-hero in the grey area if you get me but he is associated with evil because of his race. But it is a redemption arc because he realises that he was dreadfully wrong 🙂
Anyway, y’all, how’s your writing been in general? Writer’s block or too many words, not enough time? Characters cooperating? All well in fantasy-wherever?
I’m actually stuck because I have an issue with a part of my WIP narrative😫 I don’t know how to move forward at the moment.
Am I allowed in here?
[Sudden silence…]
Someone whispers, “It’s him! Pretend you’re a mannequin! Maybe, he’ll go away.”
[pausing] [Listening to the shadows sigh.]
I think…I’ll probably get back to my writing…
[Door closes.]
[The erstwhile interloper shuffles away…]
He whispers to himself cryptically, “Empathy Exercise Complete.”
Brian Stansell (aka O'Brian of the Surface World)
I was born in war.
Fighting from my first breath.You think like me girl I love enemies to lovers SO much and I hate that almost every book I have read with that trope is basically borderline abusive or a smut-fest I really want to do it right with my WIP, I’m planning on doing a series where this relationship is developed appropriately. But yeah you’re right, it is a very complicated subject, gosh I need to make sure I do it right My villainous guy isn’t a psychopath, he’s more an anti-hero in the grey area if you get me but he is associated with evil because of his race. But it is a redemption arc because he realises that he was dreadfully wrong
Very cool!
I’m actually in the middle of writing an enemies-to-friends arc, which is a lot of fun. I considered making it an enemies-to-lovers arc, but the characters just don’t work together at all. (And there were a lot of personal issues between them. Like, a lot.)
I think one of the key places where it usually goes wrong is that they take enemies-to-lovers too literally and try to go right from one to the other without a healthy transition. (I think enemies-to-friends-to-lovers is actually a separate trope, but I consider them the same thing XD)
Usually, in the beginning, both characters are just like, “Oh, we’re supposed to be enemies, but I really want to kiss him/her.” So then they get together and that’s it.
I mean… kill the tension, why don’t you?! There’s no fun if there’s no internal conflict.
It’s a lot more fun for the characters to hate each other with all their hearts and have an extremely biased view of the other one but then they both keep repeatedly acting out of the ‘villain’ script and they both start to get a tiny bit of respect and feel like they’re betraying themselves and they do everything to deny it but they finally come together after lots of sarcastic banter and I enjoy that way too much XD (I have never written a sentence that long. That was impressive!) I like seeing characters kick their own feelings XD
Anyway, one of the things that really kills it for me is if they just completely skip the friendship stage. It just kinda feels unrealistic to me XD I’m not saying it can’t be done well, but I like seeing them slowly start to respect and then like each other, as opposed to them just… hating each other but still wanting to kiss? Or something?
Admittedly, I don’t ship characters easily XD And I also suck at writing romance in general. So, any advice I give definitely isn’t from writing experience. XD
It actually sounds like you have a good base, especially because they dislike each other because of outside forces/biases. And it’s so much better if you pair it with a redemption arc!
I actually really like it when characters actually recognize that they did something wrong and apologize for it. That sounds so obvious but the alternative is that the author tries to explain it away instead of just recognizing they did wrong and I see that too often :/
I’m actually stuck because I have an issue with a part of my WIP narrative I don’t know how to move forward at the moment.
Eeps! The dreaded plot holes that collapse your carefully crafted outline! I hate it when that happens! Hope you fix it soon!
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
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