February 8, 2020 at 2:58 pm #105618Livi Ryddle@anne_the_noob14
Heyo! I don’t have any tips or anything to add to what has already been said XD But I thought I should poke my head in to say that everything you guys said is really helpful for me, cause I’m having to go through the struggle of developing a “magic” system, myself. 😛
“Enough! Be quiet! I can’t hear myself think! I can’t hear my teeth chatter!"February 11, 2020 at 9:15 pm #105930Linyang Zhang@devastate-lasting
I’m kinda late I guess…but anyway. Basically I have Magic Users and regular people. Magic Users have an extremely long lifespan, and each get one named Ability, but when they use the ability it shortens their lifespan. They have to train in order to cut down the time that is taken off.
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- TKFebruary 12, 2020 at 1:07 am #105939Sarah Inkdragon@sarah-inkdragon
First things first – I thought you were the OP. *facepalm* Woops lol. Most of that really long-ish rant was meant for the OP….
Anyhow, so the differentiation between “common-place” and “special ability” magic to me is just simply how it occurs in the natural world. Common place magic is something everyone can learn, with varying degrees of talent just like anything else. Special ability magic is something that only certain people have the “gift” so to speak to learn it. Think of….. say, magic in HP vs. magic in The Inheritance Cycle. (HP is pretty widely known so I figured it be a decent example.) In HP, only certain people can learn magic through a special ‘ability’. In The Inheritance Cycle, anyone can learn magic spells/etc – but each has different levels of talent. (I do hope I’m remembering The Inheritance Cycle’s magic system right… it’s been a while since I read it.).
If you were to say, separate magic into a ‘natural’ part of the world – as in, it has always been part of the world and was created with the world – and magic that is ‘unnatural’ to the world, that’s what I’d call Natural Order Magic vs. Supernatural Order Magic. Natural Order Magic is like the Deep Magic in Narnia – a part of the world itself, not something brought into it. Supernatural Order Magic is something bestowed upon the world by an outside force – a god, a demon, etc. People can ‘harness’ magic from either one of these, but the source of the magic is vastly different. It’s sort of like Ordained vs. Unordained magic, but Natural Order Magic and Supernatural Order Magic can be both Ordained and Unordained. Think of perhaps, a Supernatural Order Magic that’s a gift from god to man – if it’s from the God, it’s from an ordained source. If it’s from a god, it’s an unordained source.
Long story short, I think there is a clear separation(Or at least I haven’t seen anyone break that separation…. yet.).
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- C. S. LewisFebruary 13, 2020 at 2:53 am #106087Noodle-Mum@noodle-mum
wow guys! I’m so happy with all the responses! This really helps me solidify my own magic system!
I love the thought that was put into your answers, thank you all for responding! ^_^February 15, 2020 at 5:51 pm #106259PenSword@pensword
I don’t use magic in my own stories just because of personal preference (and laziness) but I don’t have a problem with most story magic. There have been a few that have made me feel uncomfortable, and some of them are viewed as “great Christian works” so maybe I’m just weird, but for the most part “fantasy magic” or like other people have been describing it where it’s basically part of the world’s science doesn’t bother me in reading.February 15, 2020 at 7:50 pm #106272Violet@pookiemonster
@taylorclogston Both I think. I just don’t want anyone to read my story and think “Hey that look like witchcraft!” or “Hey that looks a lot like what I read in …blah blah blah [insert book title here] blah blah.”
Thanks for the offer, but I’m nowhere near that point yet. I have some major character / plot elements I need to demolish and rebuilt. But I really appreciate the offer.
Lol, it’s fine I’ve done that before too.
Oh ok I see what you meant now. I definitely have a Natural Order Magic, but the corrupt version takes the natural magic and enhances it using supernatural elements.
I know this sounds cop-out-ish (that’s not a word, i know) But My WIP is an epic fantasy and its magic is both “common-place” and “special ability”. It’s common-place because I have three cultures where everyone is a user, one of which would literally DIE without it. But it’s also a special ability because other cultures only have a certain percentage of people born with the ability.
Oh, and I’ve never read The Inheritance Cycle’s. Is it any good?
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