September 7, 2018 at 9:27 am #46766
@wordsmith *confetti and balloons and noisemakers and just general shocked hilarity* What are the odds?? 😛 I haven’t been down there in forever, but I guess the chances that we bumped into each other as kids are at least fifty-fifty. XD
INFP-A. If you can't be brilliant, odd will do.September 7, 2018 at 9:33 am #46768
My family’s been there for the past thirteen years (almost)… We moved there when I was three… Do you know any of theses names? Randy Booth, David Alders, Carolyn Andrews (her husband Reese passed away a few years ago), and Mark O’Neill.
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 7, 2018 at 9:35 am #46769
@wordsmith ahh, we moved out almost precisely thirteen years ago. 😛 I don’t recognize any of those names either. 🙁
INFP-A. If you can't be brilliant, odd will do.September 7, 2018 at 9:39 am #46770
Missed by a year. Well, this is really cool! Would you be comfortable saying which area you lived in?
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 7, 2018 at 9:41 am #46771
@wordsmith Manning Cemetery Road. About twenty minutes outside of Lufkin, I believe, though I may be remembering the drive time wrong. 😛
INFP-A. If you can't be brilliant, odd will do.September 7, 2018 at 9:43 am #46772
Okay! When we first moved to East Texas, we moved five miles outside of Nac, though have moved again since then.
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 7, 2018 at 9:44 am #46773
@wordsmith good ol’ Nacogdoches. *grins* Sweet! Say hello to Texas for me. 🙂
INFP-A. If you can't be brilliant, odd will do.September 7, 2018 at 9:46 am #46774
Will do! 😄
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 7, 2018 at 11:16 am #46778
@karthmin yeah, yeah. I know. 😉 I can’t really have an INFP best friend without learning something about emotions. Not sure she’s quite reached the lesson on group hugs though. And honestly @kate, any definition of normal by you is very debatable.
Problem being I’m surrounded by feelers. So someone has to be insulting and sarcastic and logical, even if it goes to extremes. I’ve a reputation of sorts after all (I think…?) and I can’t just publically ruin it no matter what I might actually know to be true when it comes to emotions. Besides, emotions are precious, fragile, dangerous things. What is the point of laying them out for all to see when most people won’t care? Not to mention a mask of ice and iron is very convenient. People are pleasantly surprised when one actually does care as opposed to being disappointed because the best given isn’t enough. It’s about expectations and viewed reality/real reality and all that.
*folds notes* Lecture on INTJ processing of emotions is complete. Good luck figuring out what is real and what is just another layer of that mask.
Victory in the march. Hope in the destination.September 7, 2018 at 11:31 am #46781
Hahahah! I haven’t paid much attention to the MB personality types, until just recently.
I go by ENTJ (though I’m very close to the line between J and P… Life does that to people). I am a T, but the idea of group hug is not one that I dislike. Though, that’s maybe related to my extrovertedness.
But… Seeing your MB lines up really well with how your emails read.
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 8, 2018 at 9:31 am #46865
@wordsmith ha, yep. I have a fun time playing the INTJ stereotype with those. It’s so easy to write. XD
Victory in the march. Hope in the destination.September 8, 2018 at 3:45 pm #46917Martin Detwiler@karthmin
Fascinating. And I can understand your position. Masks can be beautiful, elegant things; and using them is certainly a skill that few can master. It lends a sense of mystery and preciousness to the reality of what lies beneath, in the rare moments when it is revealed.
But you’re wrong about one thing, I think. Emotions aren’t “precious, fragile, dangerous things.” Rather, I find them to be one of the strongest things on the planet. Precious and dangerous, sure, but fragile is a strange word to use of the bond that ties a mother to her children, or a warrior to his lady-love.
If they aren’t strong, they aren’t worth having in the first place. Which, to me, explains why I’m so close to the line between F and T. If I am indifferent towards something, I will be a T about it. But if I do have emotions about a topic, well, then I have emotions about that topic. 😀 In those areas where I have some emotion,but not much, I’m rather balanced in my approach (I’d like to think, anyway O.o).
I’m not bi-polar, I promise. I’m… well-rounded. And no, I’m not speaking of my still-developing dad-bod (which is totally not fair because I’m not a father yet so why do I have the stomach of one?!?).
I hope you understand that most of this post is comedic. Although true, it is to be read with a grain of salt upon the tongue.
[Please, don’t literally eat salt just to read this post.]
By the way, I actually have a planned fantasy series that deals with the balance between emotion and intellect in the human life. Quite a fascinating theme, I have found. I can’t wait to do more work on it.
myths don't dieSeptember 8, 2018 at 3:49 pm #46918
@hope-ann what he said. You poor thing… Feelers, unite!
INFP-A. If you can't be brilliant, odd will do.September 8, 2018 at 10:19 pm #46953
@kate you’ve made your point, darkness. I can make Zal’s death worse and will. Or Nevin, if Zal’s doesn’t work thematically.
@karthmin strong… yes, in one sense. And that’s where the paradox and all those fascinating things come in. See, emotions are some of the strongest things when it comes to binding (or repelling) people. Even with logic mixed in, actions are rooted in emotion either as a cause or with the action being done despite them.
The weakness aspect–I guess it’s more of a vulnerability than weakness. Which to an INTJ is the same thing. Cause vulnerability means one can be hurt and they can’t do anything about it. But what am I thinking? INFPs don’t care about pain, do they? Lest not at the expense of emotions and actually ‘living.’ And yes, love and all that can be worth the pain it might cost down the road. Doesn’t mean one can’t be careful about what they care about.
*Leans back to await the lecture that is going to cause* I’ll consider it research for my INFP main character. Storms knows he needs all the help he can get.
And I like salt, thank you very much. *steals it all*
Also yes, my responses totally for fun (though also true). Cause hey, someone has to stand up for the thinkers here. God created both kinds for a reason. *smirks*
And that sounds like a fascinating theme. Kate and I have a book planned that deals with emotions being worth the pain they cause. It’s going to be quite fun. Someday*coughs*wheneverwehavetime*coughs*
Victory in the march. Hope in the destination.September 8, 2018 at 11:27 pm #46957Martin Detwiler@karthmin
Fair point about the vulnerability that emotion brings with it. And to be honest, I was kind of waiting for you to provide the paradoxical counter-point to what I said.
But my personal approach is not to view emotions as a vulnerability. Rather, I see them as an opportunity for my logical, thinking side to take up the potential slack that could be created. In fact, emotion and thinking work in tandem together to shore up the weaknesses present in one another.
It’s related to faith, honestly. Faith requires a logical understanding of Who and What is being believed, and yet is incomplete without the undercurrent of emotion that allows someone with faith to look beyond apparent fact to the realities that are unseen. Faith is incomplete and empty without both elements working together – and that’s how I (would like to) approach life in general.
Obviously, my tendency is to approach things more emotionally than not. I am an INFP, after all. And I embrace and accept that fact about me, unabashedly. But the true usefulness I find in the label is that it shows me in what areas I am weak and need to consciously balance my approach to life.
It’s not that I’m dissatisfied with who I am and what my tendencies are. But for me, those things are a starting point. The goal is balance. The goal is to live out a paradox of competing truths in equal measure. The goal is not INFP, for me anyway. That is simply a tool that tells me with what strengths and weaknesses I am coming to the surgery table of life, and what I should do to become a more balanced and strong individual.
So the goal is perfect balance.
Yet even there, I see a paradox. Because the world runs on diversity. There are myriads of historical examples of people who achieved what could not be possible if they had a perfectly balanced approach to life. Scientists, missionaries, social activists… the examples go on and on. So I must acknowledge that reality; and yet I still maintain that balance ought to be our universal goal. Not sameness, but balance.
And yet there’s a beautiful symmetry to it all, I think, when viewed as a whole. It helps me to bring theology into it all as well. What I mean is that as Christians, we are all striving to attain greater likeness to the same Person; and yet as we achieve that likeness, we begin to more fully express our divinely intended individuality (which is entirely unique).
Mind-blowing, really. Isn’t it?
Not quite the lecture you were expecting, I’m sure. But it’ll have to do. I’ve got nothing else. XD Except some salt. You didn’t swipe all of it, you thieving Baggins. *hands you a piece of pink Himalayan salt* It’s pink, so it’s fancier. *nods wisely* Enjoy!
Mmmm… the story that you and Kate have in the works sounds fascinating. I’m already thinking of all the great places you can go with that. XD Can’t wait to see what comes of it. *ahem* Someday, that is. If it ever exists in a readable format.
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