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September 16, 2022 at 5:48 pm #152779Blooming Grace@lady-grace
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*really misses how YDubs fills in the tag for you* XD*moving YDubbs chat post* HI AGAIN!! *happy squeal* *superhugs you*
*squeals with you* *starts crying cause YDubbs was so awesome and I miss it already* oh well, goodbyeās not the endš¤§ *squeals again and bear hugs you*
I got notifs for two different āmoving cpā things. Which one did you want to use?
I donāt actually know where the second is, I just got the notif for it. I think I can directly comment thoughā¦ does that make any sense? XDA long-hidden tale may hold the answers-and the healing-they so desperately seek.
~Set the Stars AlightSeptember 16, 2022 at 9:45 pm #152782Joshua Scheele@storysmithfigured out how to outwit whatever is glitching this post! (copy pasted from my email XD I guess I am smarter than a computer after all XD JK)
Thanks! XD
September 17, 2022 at 7:56 am #152783Sydney Witbeck@sydney@lady-grace I know!! It’s like I actually have to TYPE out the letters XD Or just copy paste the tag XD Writing takes up all my energy š¤£š¤£
*squeals with you* *starts crying cause YDubbs was so awesome and I miss it already* oh well, goodbyeās not the endš¤§ *squeals again and bear hugs you*
Me too!! Are you ever thinking of going back? *bear hugs you back* *hands you a tissue box*
I got notifs for two different āmoving cpā things. Which one did you want to use? I donāt actually know where the second is, I just got the notif for it. I think I can directly comment thoughā¦ does that make any sense? XD
Ha ha well…..I sent 2 b/c earlier my posts weren’t working here so I wasn’t sure which one you’d get! XD I think we could chat here though (b/c I’m not 100% sure where the second one went either! XD) Actually come to think of it, should we start a new topic/forum thing for our CP? So we don’t have to scroll through all the replies… (because my intro post is still active lol) XD
September 17, 2022 at 2:41 pm #152924Sydney Witbeck@sydney@storysmith You’re welcome!!
Indeed I did! XD A fine and proud name it tis! My other favorite name is āValdunarā who is her adoptive father, mentor, guardian, lord of knights, and general. He was once her fatherās greatest rival and a great friend. He was blessed by her dying father to raise her and her siblings as he would have his own late daughters. It first he is reminded of his grief at the loss of his beautiful wife and 2 daughters but soon saw how much they would have been overjoyed to take these kids as his family. He eventually sees these new adopted kids as Godās blessing at a 2nd chance at carrying on the dream he shared with his late wife to raise and build a home of peace and comfort from which he could watch the future generations flourish within.
Oh that’s a cool name too! So what changed him from Sylvie’s father’s rival to his close friend? What happened to his wife and girls? š„ That’s really sweet that he gets to raise the princess and her siblings – I can see those scenes being so gripping and also tender.
Sylvendra and her people’s softest spot is for children no matter the race as they are the life blood that spur on the times of peace or the pursuit of it. They all dream of a time and place where children can run freely without armed guards or powerful guardian beasts to watch over them and especially to hear them laugh and play without fear of shy voices and nervous darting eyes.
I have 2 little kids planned out for a future story and I know how Sylvie & her countrymen feel š Yes, small children all deserve a chance at life where they get a chance to actually be kids, to be crazy, have fun, and enjoy the fleeting moments of their childhood. What kind of guardian beasts are there? One of my kids – Trevyn (whose story is not for my next book but the one after that) – was captured when he was little and turned into a slave. He essentially grows up with no childhood. š„ He only catches glimpses of what he can have when a firey redheaded spitfire named Verity comes into his life…. XD (I know, I was going to do her story next, but now that’s on hold b/c I have another story I REALLY can’t wait to start XD)
*Crouches into readied dueling stance, armed with notes and fountain pen with a cool calculated smile* Bring it on! XD
*bows* *unrolls a scroll* YES! PERMISSION!
Excellent question, I am honestly not sure yet and still debating on her outcome. I thought of giving her a love story but an unlikely tale and a possibly impossible and sad dream as the man that earns her heart is an arch enemy. He is daring, strong, courageous, he fights a war with her because he has no choice but to fight for his liege lord who is evil and corrupt. His true allegiance is to his people as he fights for them who will pay the price if he fails. However, he also hopes and prays she will see through to his heart how to win him and his unfailing honor as they exchange blow for blow. He needs her to free his people to earn theirs and especially his eternal devotion, gratitude, admiration, andā¦ā¦love. *wink wink* XD
Oh no no no!! Her arch enemy?! That’s so sad!! Okay, I really want them to be together now *sorry* *ha ha not really* I have a weakness for seeing the redemption of broken characters like that – which is why I have Nathan & Payton as my MCs and the same goes for Kerwin & Maddock my next book MCs (Kerwin is the one who dies btw) Okay, now since I have permission to ask away, I must know: What’s his name? What’s he like?
Currently, I am not sure if she will have a king in the end if this mentioned character does what I know what he will do for his people and consequences that might follow if he disobeys his liege lord. My current thought is that she might in a way be alone in the end as her love for one will be sacrificed for the love of all as she would give her eternal devotion to her people. By the end when she is queen, she has been through and seen so much with a trail covered in tears, blood, ruin, and scars. She might have sealed her heart away for the man who earned and won her heart but at a cost. She might adopt some children who may not share her blood but her heart and also the hearts of the greatest people who helped make her who she is today. These children will one day take up their swords and continue on the vigilant watch for danger as it is her familyās legacy to be the shield to all. Any suggestions or ideas? I have never done romance in a story before but I sadly know the plot to almost every hallmark movie (ā¦ā¦ā¦thanks Mom!) *nearly fell off my chair laughing* XD XD
Aaawww Sylvie!! *hugs her* Poor girl!! Although, I must say, I love the idea of her adopting children – they would be her heirs right? Ummm ha ha welp, I’ve never actually done any romance like that before either so sadly I can’t help you out here. (The extent of my romance is that I paired off 2 people who were in my first book and the sequel opens with their wedding. Before that? Guess I leave that up to the reader XD) That’s hilarious! Yeah, I’ll read books with romance (Jane Austen, Count of Monte Cristo, Mitford and a bunch of others) but writing it…. *mind blanks* *stares at charries* “Okay, you guys, umm fall in love and I’ll return when you want to get married. Deal?”
Unfortunately, I have not reached those scenes yet but hope to make them the most unexpected hilarious scenes. I keep picturing the old cartoon sound visual effects when a fight is happening out of picture that sometimes have dying from laughter.
XD Well well well….it will be unexpected for sure! šš YES!! XD
Aww poor guy! I am currently trying to figure out how to navigate with a character who becomes blind and is devastated by their loss but my world has some unique ways to see things than just with the eyes. It will be a hard and sad journey till they discover this only the beginning for what God has in store for them. The first step they must make is to find satisfaction where God has placed them knowing that He always knows what is best. Then other doors might openā¦ā¦.
I know…. *hugs Payton* Writing the scene where he actuallyĀ realizes he’s blind. Ooof. His mom is there and she says something and he’s like…wait, Mother? All he has is her voice, he’s trapped, drowning all alone in a sea of panic… *runs to hug Payton* *I’m so sorry buddy!* Writing blind characters can definitely be a struggle. Wait, what are the other ways they have? He he, I’m having fun being able to ask a ton of questions. To be fair, you said I could! XD Yes, knowing that God is all they need….Payton, poor boy, never grasped that before his accident. He believed in God, but he wanted to have some control over his life. So when everything spirals out of hand and the bottom drops out of his world, that’s when he panics. Big time.
*whispers* What other doors? (“Payton, don’t listen!!”)
Good! I honestly feel better about it that you see its importance and theme too. Plus it should have its desired effect. XD
*bows again* It will for sure!
I agree it would be an ideal motivator to prove to all how good of a leader they have in the making, who has possibly endured more than they as most grown adults have and yet she continues to fight on and thrive. As for the unfortunate soldier tasked with the task of punishment, I felt he would be the most dumbfounded and horrified at the fact he is about to punish his beloved leader who sheds her innocent blood for the sake of his comrade. I pictured him fidgeting with the rope wishing he could rip it apart but also knows his duty. Worst yet his son has a crush on the princess and her daughter see her as her role model. Kind of a horrible spot to get out of. He hears the ding of his commander roaring at him to begin but it is a dull sound as his mind and heart threaten to tear apart in his horror and guilt. Then all is calm and clear as he gazes into her vibrant and soft glowing eyes and sees her rare gentle look of not just wise and strong leader but of love and kindness. She then addresses him with a firm but low gentle voice that rings in his ears to please begin and has nothing to fear. His mind then goes numbā¦. just does what he was told to do as he is horrified by the silence of not just the crowd but as no sound comes from her except the contact of the whip as it leaves new marks on top of the countless old scars. Once it is done, he flings the whip into a large brazier like it is vile serpent and falls upon his knees staring at his reddened hands and the blood stained ground. He feels the surge of bodies mill about him as they quickly cover the princessās wounds with ointment and bandages and throw cloaks about her before they carry her back to tent.
*tears up* Oh poor guy!!! I feel so bad for him, and yet it must be done. I just hope the rest of the villagers don’t judge him or shun him or anything like that! I can just see him there, frozen in shock after the whole ordeal is over, just staring at nothing….POOR GUY!!
Hmmm you can write romance…with his son and the princess š
He feels alone and reviled for his action even though she told him to do it. He still wonders would his children still accept and love him after what he has done to their hero. Then his all fears and doubts begin to die as warm and kind gentle hands grip his face as he feels the princessās kiss of forgiveness and selfless love upon his brow. As his mind clears and begins to focus, he feels his family fling their arms around him as they all begin to sob in one united waterfall. They constantly assure each other that everything will be alright and they love him for doing what he knew was right as princess proved to all, he is a good man who loves what is right for his hesitance to strike the innocent. They all fear being shunned by their community if they fail to understand that he only did the deed because the princess asked him to. He then comes alert as his commanderās immensely strong but kind hand grips his shoulder. He assures him that he has nothing to fear for if anyone holds this against him, they shall not receive any mercy from the princess as she has marked him with her forgiveness and gratitude for helping her do the right thing. He and other fellow soldiers tenderly help the sobbing family to their feet and walk them to a quiet place where they can be alone till the princess can see them. On their way, the path is lined with beasts and people who all bow the their heads in respect and sympathy. It will take me a while to get through this scene when I fully write it out as you said it is a powerful one and could summon a waterfall or two. lol XD
*sigh of relief* Good, I was worried for a moment, like the village would turn on him or something! I mean, I know how hard it is for shunned characters – that’s basically Nathan’s life in Alvastia. But it sounds like his family understands and they want to support him, which is GREAT! Umm yes, I think a waterfall or two or three will be in order when I read this scene! ššš There. There are the 3 waterfalls. lol Although, I will say I have a weakness for sad stories or scenes or songs. (Have you read the Wingfeather Saga? XD)
I hope that makes sense. Any thoughts?
It makes sense to me. I think it would add an interesting dynamic if you included some soldiers/villagers who, in spite of what the princess has said, actually did start to shun this man or distance themselves from his family. (IDK if you already had as part of the scene or not) That was the only extra thing I could think of!
Sure! I would be glad to help however I can! I have learned we should refrain from killing off our characters without proper buildup of reasons of why they must die which has halted most of my plans to kill off my characters as it is overly used tool to make other characters grow. I prefer to think of how it would endear the characterās testimony/legacy in the hearts of all if it is their time to go. If the character has not been given enough time to grow as a character and show who they are to the reader, then it is probably not time to kill them yet. But there are some characters who always get themselves in bad situations and it might eventually be time for them to find themselves in a situation of no realistic point of return.
Thank you! *pulls out scroll and feather pen to start making notes* Like I said, I’ve never done this before (let alone it’s Kerwin and I love his character already *sigh*) He’s going to die in his brother’s arms at the very very end. Yes, I will try and make sure I develop his character – I don’t want to readers to feel like, oh this is just another character killed in war. Not thatĀ any death is insignificant, but you know what I mean right?
This is him: (or how he is in my head!)
He he! I like finding pictures of my charries, I have a bunch more lol
Death is huge fundamental factor as to why my characters fight till there is no one bad left to fight in a war torn world. They are sick and broken from the constant moments of witnessing the deaths of the innocent especially of helpless women and children no matter the race. A good death scene gets me every time when it makes me remember how the character lived not died. The worst and best death scenes for me are the moments of selfless sacrifice when one person lays their life down as that another might live just has Christ set the example through his death that it is the greatest act of love one can bestow upon another. It definitely gets me in those scenes when there are those reminders and flashbacks as they die that make perfect sense of why they made the choice simply because that is who they were.
Agh that is Kerwin! *hugs him again* I’m not sure 100% on all the details, but I feel like a sacrificial death for his brother’s sake would make it seem like his life wasn’t just “thrown away.” And it’s gonna be SO HARD ON MADDOCK!! AHHH!!! LIKE A POWER PUNCH!! That’s probably going to be even harder for me than the actual death – Maddock’s reaction afterwards, especially b/c it’s going to be at the very end, so I don’t want his reaction to seem rushed. It could potentially turn into a duology as he wrestles with his emotions afterwards and the consequences. Thoughts?
Here is a link to a great article to consider if you are still wondering if you should kill off the brother, https://storyembers.org/3-reasons-you-shouldnt-kill-your-characters/ I recommend reading the comment section of my comment and the article writer Martin Detwilerās response. It has some awesome points to consider when choosing to kill off your character if it is your best meaningful option for your story.
Oh thank you! That definitely gave me some things to think about. I’m kind of scared to kill Kerwin off but at the same time…. *sigh* I kind of feel like that’s what it’s gonna take….
I hope that makes sense and helps! Does the brother accidentally get caught in a situation he was not able to get out of, a fight, or accident?
So….like I said earlier up on this post, some of the details are eluding me at the moment (which I’m fine with b/c I’m still working on my sequel XD) but basically here’s what I’m thinking:
Kingdom of Fire (working title) is going to be my next book project. And it’s going to be very extremely sad…This is the prologue:
It was a city aflame. It was stars of sparks burning the sky.
And it was two boys caught in the middle of the fiery turbulence. Years would roll between them. A kingdom of fire would almost break one and set the other free. Heartache and hope, triumph and tragedy swirled together in a tale one brother would hand down through the generations.
And this is his story.
(One brother….you caught that right? *sobs*)
Basically, it revolves around two brothers Kerwin & Maddock. Their city was set aflame by raiders and they lost everything in the world – except each other. It turned Maddock into a hard, strong, silent warrior out for revenge. He lives only for that – and his younger brother Kerwin. Maddock joins up with a man (still needs a name) who promises him that he can stop these raiders once and for all. Blinded by his passion, Maddock can’t see what Kerwin can – this leader is out for a far deeper plot and he will walk over anyone he has to to get it. (Still working on what that plot is/potentially joining with the raiders unbeknownst to Maddock) Maddock gives this man everything he has – and in the process, he becomes hardened and ruthless. Somehow the two brothers are separated. Kerwin finds faith that rises out of the ashes of his old life. There’s a major battle/conflict. Kerwin is mortally wounded….somehow saving Maddock? He dies in Maddock’s arms *cries forever* but not before his last words lead Maddock back to the faith he had abandoned so long ago.
There are still a lot of holes to be filled in obviously, but the main idea came from the fact that I wanted a story of redemption told from the antagonist’s side. And Maddock was born! And then he needed a younger brother…And there you have it! š
Extra stuff: This is Kerwin’s quote which I stole from Green Ember: “My place beside you; my blood for yours.”
And Maddock’s theme song for the end of the book is *drumroll*: “The Last Farewell” from the Hobbit.
Iām also thinking of making the setting for this story a sort of a Northern Iceland Viking world thing ā so the raiders that destroy M & Kās family are kind of like Viking raiders?
Thoughts? Stuff to tweak, change or scratch? Did it make any sense? XD If you have any more questions, I’ll do my best to answer!
What genre of music do you find helps you the most? Any specific soundtracks or songs?
One I enjoy is “Relaxing Medieval Music for Reading & Writing Playlist by Derek Fiechter” (It’s on Pandora, IDK if you have that or if you use something else?) I like medieval-based music, so I’ll find anything like that! As long as it’s instrumental XD What do you listen to for writing music?
Thatās a cool turnaround! It would take some serious shots to the heart to make a hardened soldier change his pov of what he believes is right and wrong. As they say, the truth hurts but will also set you free.
Thank you! Nathan is one of my favs. Well, after Kerwin & Payton XD Yeah, it was pretty hard for him, but now that he has the truth he wouldn’t trade it for anything!
Ah interestingā¦.. I can easily picture some likely awesome and hilarious scenes of Nathan being a drill sergeant lol XDā
I really don’t have a lot of scenes where he’s training the boys *fp* but I want to go back at the end and add that in there. Oh yes! It mostly comes out when he’s teaching those who want to fight in the cavalry – b/c horses are his love! So he can kind of get on a soapbox when it comes to their intelligence, and how you have to earn their loyalty, how their natural instincts are screaming at them to flee from a battle and you’re telling them to race into it – and if you can get a horse like that, you know he’ll go through fire and sword for you. That’s what Falcon, Nathan’s horse is like. And the boys are like *eye roll* WE’VE HEARD THIS LECTURE ALREADY!! Just let us go out there and RIDE!! XD
September 17, 2022 at 2:42 pm #152925Sydney Witbeck@sydney@storysmith for some reason, it didn’t like the fact that I wanted to post a picture of Kerwin. So here’s take 2 of that!
September 17, 2022 at 11:49 pm #152933Blooming Grace@lady-graceI know!! Itās like I actually have to TYPE out the letters XD Or just copy paste the tag XD Writing takes up all my energy š¤£š¤£
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Writing is such draining work. I donāt think we writers would survive without chocolate XDMe too!! Are you ever thinking of going back? *bear hugs you back* *hands you a tissue box*
*Accepts tissues* I hope I can! If not as a birthday gift, then when I get a job. But no matter what, I SHALL FIND A WAY! š XD
Do you plan to return?Ha ha wellā¦..I sent 2 b/c earlier my posts werenāt working here so I wasnāt sure which one youād get! XD I think we could chat here though (b/c Iām not 100% sure where the second one went either! XD) Actually come to think of it, should we start a new topic/forum thing for our CP? So we donāt have to scroll through all the repliesā¦ (because my intro post is still active lol) XD
Yeah, maybe start a new thing. We might drive the other people on here crazy XD
My intro post is a little less active, so we could maybe use thatā¦*nods in agreement to the whole thing of scrolling through everything*XDA long-hidden tale may hold the answers-and the healing-they so desperately seek.
~Set the Stars AlightSeptember 18, 2022 at 1:54 pm #152938Rose@rose-colored-fancySo itās a Character Castle in Kingdom Pen? Are you on there?Ā Iām not on any of the Character Castles on here b/c some of the topics ā well, I have different views on some of the stuff.
Oh cool! I’m not, but I’ve been planning to join for… *awkward silence* several years now XD
Oh, I totally get that, every character castle I’ve been in here has gottenĀ veryĀ dark at some point or another! I just asked because ‘a character with PTSD’ made me think it might be a friend’s character XD I suppose there’s just quite a few of them XD
Yeah, itās only temporary and came on due to trauma. (Which can actually happen) But he doesnāt know that and neither does anyone elseā¦ POOR AYDIN!! What happened to him?!
Oh nooooo!! Poor guy, he must be panicking quite a lot. Ummm… saying that is kind of a huge spoiler, but let’s just say he accidentally brought it upon himself because of past actions. Doesn’t mean he deserved it, but there was a reason it happened.
OH MY GOODNESS THATāS SO COOL!! You can read in Dutch AND you can speak Afrikaans? COOL!!!! AAAAH!!!
Oh yeah, I’m fluent in both XD I’m South African, so Afrikaans was my first language, and I’ve lived in NL for most of my life. English was actually my third language, but honestly, it’s my favorite. I write pretty much exclusively in English too.
IKR? At that point, I would either a) throw the book at the wall b)write my own ending C) DO BOTH!! Hmmm C is the most likely XD Yes they must!
Oh yessss, always both!
Interesting!! So Liorahās brother is in charge of the ālegitā monarchy right?
Yes! Though, both monarchies have… ‘catches’ The Lehabim monarchy (theirs) also has a set of Elders, who can overrule the king if they’re in majority, and even vote him off the throne if necessary.
The other monarchy has a funky ascension system, where if you defeat the ruling king in a duel, you become king. It’s less chaos than it looks, mostly because there are a ton of safeguards in place so random idiots don’t challenge the king to fight everyday XD
A few of the other systems have rulers referred to as ‘king’ or ‘queen’, but they’re not actually monarchies in the true sense of the word, since the rulers are elected.
Without darkness, there is no light. If there was no nighttime, would the stars be as bright?
September 19, 2022 at 10:28 am #152949Sydney Witbeck@sydney@ladygrace
šš Writing is such draining work. I donāt think we writers would survive without chocolate XD
IKR?! *sigh*
Sugar – that’s how I get the energy I need to finish the next chapter XD Chocolate must have been made by a writer…
*Accepts tissues* I hope I can! If not as a birthday gift, then when I get a job. But no matter what, I SHALL FIND A WAY! š XD Do you plan to return?
I hope you can too! *grabs a tissue for myself* YES I DO! It probably won’t be until I get a job though XD
Yeah, maybe start a new thing. We might drive the other people on here crazy XD My intro post is a little less active, so we could maybe use thatā¦ *nods in agreement to the whole thing of scrolling through everything* XD
Okay! I’ll get a new post up! XD
But it’s kind of fun to drive people crazy *no you didn’t just hear me say that* lolXD š¤š¤September 19, 2022 at 1:51 pm #152953Sydney Witbeck@sydneyOh cool! Iām not, but Iāve been planning to join forā¦ *awkward silence* several years now XD
Ummm girl you NEED TO!! XD (If you join, my username is @queen_of_alvastia and by nickname is Queenie š)
Oh, I totally get that, every character castle Iāve been in here has gottenĀ veryĀ dark at some point or another! I just asked because āa character with PTSDā made me think it might be a friendās character XD I suppose thereās just quite a few of them XD
šš» There’s actually several PTSD charries in the castle I’m in XD By the way, have you ever noticed, it’s like authors are roughest on the characters they love the most?! XD
Oh nooooo!! Poor guy, he must be panicking quite a lot. Ummmā¦ saying that is kind of a huge spoiler, but letās just say he accidentally brought it upon himself because of past actions. Doesnāt mean he deserved it, but there was a reason it happened.
Yup, he is….. Excuse me while I leave for a minute… *goes to hug Payton* *I’m SO SORRY buddy!* Okay, I’m back now. Oh no poor Aydin!! *hugs him too* Now I want to know!! *glares at you* *changes tactics*
**PUPPY EYES**
Oh yeah, Iām fluent in both XD Iām South African, so Afrikaans was my first language, and Iāve lived in NL for most of my life. English was actually my third language, but honestly, itās my favorite. I write pretty much exclusively in English too.
*squeals* *bounces up and down* That is SO COOL! I have just lived my whole life in the US so I think that’s seriously amazing! šš Just for fun, (and ’cause I’m a curious person! š¤) what was the hardest thing about learning English?
Oh yessss, always both!
YES!! Oh and then I forgot D) e-mail the author and be like WRITE A NEW ENDING!! NOW!!
oh no I would never do that XDI’ve never actually read a book like this that I can think of…or maybe I did, but I never finished it XDYes! Though, both monarchies haveā¦ ācatchesā The Lehabim monarchy (theirs) also has a set of Elders, who can overrule the king if theyāre in majority, and even vote him off the throne if necessary. The other monarchy has a funky ascension system, where if you defeat the ruling king in a duel, you become king. Itās less chaos than it looks, mostly because there are a ton of safeguards in place so random idiots donāt challenge the king to fight everyday XD A few of the other systems have rulers referred to as ākingā or āqueenā, but theyāre not actually monarchies in the true sense of the word, since the rulers are elected.
Please tell me no one votes Liorah’s brother off the throne!!! Or I will go find him and recrown him XD I love that little caveat about the duel….XD *wonders what would happed if I transported some of my charries into your world just for fun* And I’d be “CHALLENGE HIM TO A DUEL! and I’m leaving you there until you win!!” XD Don’t worry it was just a thought, I didn’t say I would actually do it….ššš
By the way, do you have a Pinterest account? I have some boards for my charries and I like going around and looking at other people’s XD
September 20, 2022 at 5:39 am #152961Rose@rose-colored-fancyUmmm girl you NEED TO!! XD (If you join, my username is @queen_of_alvastia and by nickname is Queenie )
Epic, I’m working on it! I sent in the request, now I’m just waiting for them to get around to it!
Thereās actually several PTSD charries in the castle Iām in XD By the way, have you ever noticed, itās like authors are roughest on the characters they love the most?! XD
Oh YES! I mean, Liorah and Aydin are like my favorites and they’re both supremely messed up XD They actually both have PTSD too, though from two different events, and it shows up rather differently in both of them.
Liorah develops it during the runtime of the books, but Aydin has had it for years. It’s both sad and darkly funny the contrast between how they deal with it. Liorah is panicking and going through the full spectrum of negative emotions once a day and Aydin is just “Same mess as always” and carries on š Poor guys…
Yup, he isā¦.. Excuse me while I leave for a minuteā¦ *goes to hug Payton* *Iām SO SORRY buddy!* Okay, Iām back now. Oh no poor Aydin!! *hugs him too* Now I want to know!! *glares at you* *changes tactics*
**PUPPY EYES**
Poor Payton, he deserves all the hugs! So does Aydin, but he doesn’t like them XD Depending on the day he’d squirm in supreme discomfort or if he’s feeling bad enough just detach himself from the person and try to keep them at arm’s length. He only does touching on his terms XD Which.. I mean, completely justified, I get it.
And nope, not telling XD Even if you can’t put together the major spoiler, there’s always someone watching on SE and I’m not telling such a big spoiler XD
*squeals* *bounces up and down* That is SO COOL! I have just lived my whole life in the US so I think thatās seriously amazing! Just for fun, (and ācause Iām a curious person! ) what was the hardest thing about learning English?
Hmmm… I don’t really remember XD For perspective, I didn’t actually *learn* English or Dutch through any conscious effort. I was really young and I had a bunch of English-speaking friends, so it was the only way to communicate XD Also my parents are fluent in English and read to us in it for as long as I can remember, so we just kind of picked it up! Lol, I remember when I was trying to talk to my friends and I didn’t know a word so it was a matter of pantomime, attempting something that might be the word, and finally giving up and finding a parent to translate XD Pretty much the same thing applied to Dutch!
This pattern of learning it via movies, parents, books, and friends from all different countries does still give me a somewhat whacky accent at times XD I’ve been told I sound ‘posh’ and ‘British’ or ‘like I belong in Downtown Abbey’ but occasionally a word slips in a VERY American, Australian, or Kiwi accent XD It’s extremely funny, whenever I meet someone for the first time they’re briefly confused and bewildered by it XD
YES!! Oh and then I forgot D) e-mail the author and be like WRITE A NEW ENDING!! NOW!!Ā oh no I would never do that XDĀ Iāve never actually read a book like this that I can think ofā¦or maybe I did, but I never finished it XD
LOL same, when I can see where it’s going and I don’t like it I might just… stop. XD OH WAIT I THOUGHT OF ONE. Allegiant. Enough said XD Again, didn’t finish it, but heard about the ending, and that was enough.
Please tell me no one votes Liorahās brother off the throne!!! Or I will go find him and recrown him X
Don’t worry, he’s an excellent king and universally liked XD
Ā love that little caveat about the duelā¦.XD *wonders what would happed if I transported some of my charries into your world just for fun* And Iād be āCHALLENGE HIM TO A DUEL! and Iām leaving you there until you win!!ā XD Donāt worry it was just a thought, I didnāt say I wouldĀ actuallyĀ do itā¦.
LOlll that’s so fun! Unfortunately, they would just instantly die XD The current king of that tribe is the main antagonist XD
By the way, do you have a Pinterest account? I have some boards for my charries and I like going around and looking at other peopleās XD
I am! My account name is @roseeverdeen123 ! I LOVE mood boards too, I have some for all my characters!
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September 20, 2022 at 2:48 pm #152965Sydney Witbeck@sydneyEpic, Iām working on it! I sent in the request, now Iām just waiting for them to get around to it!
Oh yay! Can’t wait to see you there lol
Oh YES! I mean, Liorah and Aydin are like my favorites and theyāre both supremely messed up XD They actually both have PTSD too, though from two different events, and it shows up rather differently in both of them. Liorah develops it during the runtime of the books, but Aydin has had it for years. Itās both sad and darkly funny the contrast between how they deal with it. Liorah is panicking and going through the full spectrum of negative emotions once a day and Aydin is just āSame mess as alwaysā and carries on š Poor guysā¦
Aydin is my favorite XD Oh no!!! That is seriously sad, but I think it’s interesting the way you portray their two different reactions to it. I think I would probably be reacting likeĀ Liorah – in terms of just plain panicking. *sigh* Poor girl!!Ā So if you had to choose, which one is the worse case? (please pardon my grammar. XD Grammarly thinks that sentence is okay so it must be right?) As in whose PTSD is the more traumatic? If you can choose! Also, I might pick your brain for ideas when I start writing Maddock – my poor traumatized PTSD boy!!!
Poor Payton, he deserves all the hugs! So does Aydin, but he doesnāt like them XD Depending on the day heād squirm in supreme discomfort or if heās feeling bad enough just detach himself from the person and try to keep them at armās length. He only does touching on his terms XD Which.. I mean, completely justified, I get it.
He does!! Okay, so he probably wouldn’t really like me hugging him, he’d be annoyed I think, but he’s put up with it. Unless he’s super scared – like now – and then, yeah, I can hug him all I want. Yeah, I get that. IRL that would be me sometimes too XD So when he gets like that, I go hug Verity or Trevyn – two charries who don’t mind my huggingabilitiess XD
And nope, not telling XD Even if you canāt put together the major spoiler, thereās always someone watching on SE and Iām not telling such a big spoiler XD
MAN!! *sigh* I suppose I should be thankful…. so. *thanks* šš (first time puppy eyes have failed me….I think I need a new weapon lol)
Hmmmā¦ I donāt really remember XD For perspective, I didnāt actually *learn* English or Dutch through any conscious effort. I was really young and I had a bunch of English-speaking friends, so it was the only way to communicate XD Also my parents are fluent in English and read to us in it for as long as I can remember, so we just kind of picked it up! Lol, I remember when I was trying to talk to my friends and I didnāt know a word so it was a matter of pantomime, attempting something that might be the word, and finally giving up and finding a parent to translate XD Pretty much the same thing applied to Dutch!
Ah that’s so fun!! XD Life tip: when in doubt, use sign language/pantimone. šššš
This pattern of learning it via movies, parents, books, and friends from all different countries does still give me a somewhat whacky accent at times XD Iāve been told I sound āposhā and āBritishā or ālike I belong in Downtown Abbeyā but occasionally a word slips in a VERY American, Australian, or Kiwi accent XD Itās extremely funny, whenever I meet someone for the first time theyāre briefly confused and bewildered by it XD
*swoons* DO YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD GIVE TO HAVE A BRITISH ACCENT?! Well, actually, I don’t know either, but I’d love to have one lol. Seriously, I bet you have a cool accent though! I’m pretty sure I don’t. Except that I say y’all. Maybe if I moved somewhere else, people would think I did? XD
LOL same, when I can see where itās going and I donāt like it I might justā¦ stop. XD OH WAIT I THOUGHT OF ONE. Allegiant. Enough said XD Again, didnāt finish it, but heard about the ending, and that was enough.
I have a hard time stopping in the middle of books – so I just skip to the end XD Allegiant? Never read it, never even heard of it… guess I won’t put that one on my TBR list lol What did you hear about the ending?!
Donāt worry, heās an excellent king and universally liked XD
*claps* good job!
LOlll thatās so fun! Unfortunately, they would just instantly die XD The current king of that tribe is the main antagonist XD
XD *rushes to collect my characters* Umm c’mon guys, time to go…
Payton: But I was gonna have some fun!!
*double take*
“PAYTON why are YOU HERE!? It was just supposed to be the older guys!! The ones that actually can fight in duels.”
Payton: You BLINDED me, okay? It’s not exactly fun. I had to come to a world where I wasn’t blind and stir stuff up, and this looked like my best bet.”
Yeah right. A duel with a guy who is going to kill you. Wait, why are you not blind here? Never mind, just come with me. *drags Payton back to his own world*
(this is what I have to deal with when I work with Payton XD)
I am! My account name is @roseeverdeen123 ! I LOVE mood boards too, I have some for all my characters!
Yay!! I see you!! Awww those boards are so cool!! He he, I can’t do regular moodboards b/c I don’t have the app/program thing so I just make a bunch of Pinterest boards. I’m just plain sydneywitbeck on there by the way š)
September 23, 2022 at 5:14 am #152975Rose@rose-colored-fancyAydin is my favorite XD Oh no!!! That is seriously sad, but I think itās interesting the way you portray their two different reactions to it. I think I would probably be reacting likeĀ Liorah ā in terms of just plain panicking. *sigh* Poor girl!!Ā So if you had to choose, which one is the worse case?
Hmm… I don’t think I can categorize either as ‘worse’. They’re really different.
Liorah’s is more recent and raw, and she’s constantly confronted with the aftermath of the traumatic situation.
Aydin’s happened several years ago, but his was less of one event and more an extended period of trauma at a young age, so it really shaped his personality and coping mechanisms. He spent a while after it being relatively without support and just trying to cope by himself, which didn’t go great.
Their reactions are also based on that. Both of their traumas were based on helplessness and guilt, and they had opposite reactions to it. Liorah becomes even more independent and focused on competence, whereas Aydin avoids conflict and situations where he could potentially make the wrong choice.
They both have different but overlapping symptoms. Liorah gets even more defiant and aggressive, whereas Aydin has near-constant anxiety and depression, though I don’t know if he’s even aware of it, it’s more of a baseline for him.
Also, I might pick your brain for ideas when I start writing Maddock ā my poor traumatized PTSD boy!!!
I’ll be happy to tell you what I know, which obviously isn’t a replacement for actual research, and I’m no expert XD I’ve done my best to do right by my characters, and neither use it for shock value nor make light of it. It was honestly tough and pretty emotionally taxing to write, but I think it makes the story better!
He does!! Okay, so he probably wouldnāt really like me hugging him, heād be annoyed I think, but heās put up with it. Unless heās super scared ā like now ā and then, yeah, I can hug him all I want. Yeah, I get that. IRL that would be me sometimes too XD So when he gets like that, I go hug Verity or Trevyn ā two charries who donāt mind my huggingabilitiess XD
LOLL which character of yours would give the best hugs?
*swoons* DO YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD GIVE TO HAVE A BRITISH ACCENT?! Well, actually, I donāt know either, but Iād love to have one lol. Seriously, I bet you have a cool accent though! Iām pretty sure I donāt. Except that I say yāall. Maybe if I moved somewhere else, people would think I did? XD
Lollll I genuinely don’t quite get how Americans are so obsessed with British accents, I find it highly amusing XD Oh, I say y’all all too often, along with like region-specific things from SO many places XD
I have a hard time stopping in the middle of books ā so I just skip to the end XD Allegiant? Never read it, never even heard of itā¦ guess I wonāt put that one on my TBR list lol What did you hear about the ending?!
Oh it’s the third book of the Divergent trilogy! Well… the main character is killed off in the end for no particular reason besides shock value. Nobody liked that ending XD
(this is what I have to deal with when I work with Payton XD)
Sounds all too familiar, most of my interactions with Liorah are grabbing her by the collar like you’d grab a kitten by its neck and just scooping her off the ground, away from whatever dumb thing she was about to do XD
Yay!! I see you!! Awww those boards are so cool!! He he, I canāt do regular moodboards b/c I donāt have the app/program thing so I just make a bunch of Pinterest boards. Iām just plain sydneywitbeck on there by the way š
I found you! Oh that’s super cool! I do that too all the time, it helps to just collect everything together XD
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