September 20, 2018 at 12:15 pm #48412Kate Flournoy@kate
@Daeus-lamb @cassandraia *is utterly floored* Great thoughts, guys. I may have a few things to add to the discussion, but they’re gonna hafta wait because my computer is about to go into the shop for repairs.
I’ll spend the time mulling over how I want to reply. 😉
INFP-A. If you can't be brilliant, odd will do.September 20, 2018 at 12:17 pm #48414
That was very well laid out… and based off what you just said… I wonder if it could be said that maybe writing romance is something not generally for a young generation. At what point do we want to be immersing our minds in that field. I think everyone has to decide that for themselves (or their parents need to help them with that), as we all have different struggles, but it’s something to be considered.
Do we want ourselves, young and unmarried, diving into this realm? When we write, it takes massive brain powers, and requires very much attention and thought. I’m not saying we shouldn’t, but I don’t think it’s something to be taken lightly.
Furthermore, when we write a romantic relationship (or any relationship/story), if we are being truthful, we are writing about humans who are born in sin. Yes those who have faith in Christ are being sanctified, but the old man is still there, and it’s important to portray that.
Not that we need to make it pornographic at all, but showing the danger of temptation to any human, and at least acknowledging the sin nature of man, even in a romance.
Story is about truth… Truth in light. And as torch bearers we need to expose, but also remember our higher calling as seen in Ephesians 5: 1-14:
“Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us, and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice of God.
But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness mus not even be named among you, as is proper among the saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, bu instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one device you with empty words, for because of these the wrath of God comes down upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not associate with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. take not part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore is says,
‘Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will shine upon you.'”
P.S. May I make note that even though this is a hard calling for us to fulfill, it is a beautiful thing, and these are words of comfort as well as words of direction.
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 20, 2018 at 12:19 pm #48416Daeus Lamb@daeus-lamb
A small side point:
I’ve heard it said that young Christian girls shouldn’t read romance novels.
Well, I think there’s a reason people say that. Most romance readers are ADICTS and while I’ve only read one and half romance novels myself, from what other people say, it doesn’t sound like there are many good ones out there.
But back to my small point. Who is SOS addressed to? It’s to the young maidens.
(Small point made.)
👖 🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢September 20, 2018 at 12:21 pm #48417E. Grace@emgc
I completely agree with what you’re saying. You said it much better than I think I could have…
Thanks for sharing!
"True humility is not thinking less of yourself; it is thinking of yourself less." - C. S. LewisSeptember 20, 2018 at 12:22 pm #48418
I just posted something… and edited it. But after editing it disappeared. Can ya’ll see it?
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 20, 2018 at 12:22 pm #48419
Oh there it is!
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 20, 2018 at 12:24 pm #48420
Thanks! Glad to be of service. *whisks hat of and bows*
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 20, 2018 at 12:36 pm #48423Cassandra Hamm@cassandraia
@daeus-lamb I agree with what you said, and I really don’t have much to add to it. Especially this paragraph: “So what I want to see is some very real stories about people with romantic attractions who are struggling to figure out what to do. I want to see their doubts and insecurities. I want to see where they are excessive or too cool. I want to understand their happiness or their sinking regret as if it were my own. I don’t want a guidebook, but I do want a very real journey with lessons along the way. And while I definitely don’t want erotica, I do want to feel excited for the characters.” Yes. Yes. Yes.
And I love what you said about Song of Songs. I’m glad you addressed it because I feel like not enough Christians do. 😛
@emgc That makes sense. I wasn’t trying to disregard your opinion, just so you know; I was just making sure you weren’t referring to perfect people in perfect relationships. 😉 Yes, even if they’re in a broken relationship, they should hopefully learn–which could be lessons about what to avoid in a romantic relationship and what not to do next time, the kind of person to watch out for, etc. I have been in two romantic relationships and have learned immensely from them, mostly about what not to do. XP So I think bad examples can be just as much of a teacher as good examples, if not more–as long as the people catch that it’s supposed to be bad. If the bad relationship is held up as a symbol of undying love, that’s where I’m concerned. 😛
I crush readers' souls like grapes.September 20, 2018 at 12:40 pm #48425Cassandra Hamm@cassandraia
@kate I look forward to hearing your thoughts. 😉
I crush readers' souls like grapes.September 20, 2018 at 12:47 pm #48426E. Grace@emgc
Yes, I see what you mean. And I agree. God uses our mistakes to teach us incredible things… thanks for sharing!
"True humility is not thinking less of yourself; it is thinking of yourself less." - C. S. LewisSeptember 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm #48427Noah Litle@noahlitle
Thanks @daeus-lamb. I pretty much agree with everyone here.
I only have two things to add.
I highly recommend that all of you go watch Betrothed, the movie that HaYovel put out something like ten years ago. It’s very clear and informative, and shows a completely different model of how to pursue marriage.
Secondly, Christian Romance might be like Christian Horror: Yeah, there’s a good chance it shouldn’t exist, but there are always going to be Christians who want to read it.
So do you cater to those Christians or vehemently oppose them, boycotting all forms of romance (or horror)?
Also, I agree with @wordsmith. We probably shouldn’t be the ones writing romance. At least not just yet. Give it ten or twenty years. 🙂
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p.s. I only know a little.September 20, 2018 at 1:03 pm #48429
Just to be clear… I am not against either of those genres.
Published author, student in writing, works with HazelGracePress.comSeptember 20, 2018 at 1:11 pm #48431Daeus Lamb@daeus-lamb
@wordsmith Very good points. I think young authors are capable of writing good romantic subplots, but a real weighty romance novel is probably too much of a stretch for most of us.
👖 🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢September 20, 2018 at 1:22 pm #48432Noah Litle@noahlitle
@wordsmith Sorry. I didn’t mean to imply that.
Neither did I mean to imply that I am against either genres. I myself like psychological thrillers. But I haven’t found any that are very edifying.
p.s. I only know a little.September 20, 2018 at 2:04 pm #48436
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